One of the problems in the Christian-non-Christian debate is that all too often the Christian is stereotyped as being uneducated and ignorant. I would strongly suggest that you put as much effort into learning English grammar and spelling as you do learning the Blble. I am not saying this to be mean. I am saying that when a Christian does not take the time to learn how to use written English correctly, it sends a very powerful NEGATIVE message to the rest of us.

It may seem like a small thing, but I for one am not impressed by arguments made by someone who sounds like they are only half-literate. Which is a shame, because I consider the King James Bible to be one of the treasures of English literature. The people who translated it cared enough for their native language to craft a masterpiece, whatever else one might think of it. I would say that it deserves far, far better than a semi-literate argument in its favor!

Just asking.

Leader of Jewish Liberation Front: “I’m glad you’re all here. Today we are here to organize our protest against the Roman Tyrannists. What have the Romans ever done for us??”

Man in back: “They gave us pretty good plumbing sir”.

Leader: “OK, plumbing. But besides plumbing, what have the Romans ever done for us???”

Man in back: “They built pretty good roads sir. We eat a lot better now that the food can be delivered to us”.

Leader: “OK, plumbing and roads and more food. But besides that, what have the Romans done for us??”

Man in back: “They’ve given us better schools and an appreciation of art sir.”

Something about the above discussion made me think of this from the movie. :>)

I’ve read the Bible at least 10 times and nearly memorized a couple books. I have the internet and I read about history too.

All of you sound so angry.

Maybe we have good reason to be.

And no I dont think my way is the only way

I think you would help yourself out a little by thinking about this statement

but it sure is a good way

Many of us would beg to differ, which is why we expose Christianity and help those who are leaving.

there is peace in my life

Excellent! Be happy Lucy

and I have a list a things that God has done,that no man could ever do.

So do we.

Why is that the bible cant be taught in school

Who should teach it?

why does it have to be your way,why cant we try our way & see what happens

Because it was already tried “your way”. It’s called the Dark Ages, hon.

but it has got progressively worse & everyone can see it(so I thought)

Ecclesiastes 7:10

Do not say, Why is it that the former days were better than these? For it is not from wisdom that you ask about this.

Lucy, things are actually better now than they used to be. Yes, life still sucks. It always has and always will, but do a little historical research on life expectancy, mortality rates, and murder rates in the last 1000 years.

Religions like to teach that things are getting worse because this scares people into believing more. If you wanted to start a religion, wouldn’t you want to scare people into joining if you could not prove that your religion was true?

And this just might be why some of us are angry at religions: they stifle the truth and actually keep things from getting better

Just a difference in opinion? Maybe. Or maybe we are ten steps ahead. Which is we this site is called de-conversion.com.

Why is that the bible cant be taught in school,why does it have to be your way,why cant we try our way & see what happens.I know people & children have been cruel since time started,but it has got progressively worse & everyone can see it(so I thought) . Maybe some of you should do some research.

When I first came to this website I did not know it was for atheist’s, Im sorry for starting something,I had no intention on making all of you mad,I was just trying to bring you to God,In my heart I just felt like I needed to,I used to be that “christian” that is labeled the meanest people there is,but I changed,alot! Im not trying to make you believe the way I do,I just wanted you to at least think about it. I read alot of stuff on this website, I tried to see it from everyone’s point of view,some of it did make sense to me. I’ve had a couple of times where I wondered where God was,like this past Christmas,my kids didnt receive one present,that really had me messed up for a while.So I understand how you can get hurt or confused. But I think Im not ever coming back to this website again,because the way some of you talk,its not discussing,its just putting down everybody & what they believe,maybe its your way thats not right,who knows.Maybe its mine,but Im happy,so I’ll die happy believing the way I do. I personally wish all of you would not get so angry at other religions,Im not mad at any of yours.
So good luck with your lives,and I hope that what ever you believe in works for you.

I dont need any info,I dont need to study.

Well in a way this is refreshing. A frank admission that ignorance and a flat refusal to learn or use one’s brain is good for one’s religion/superstition. And your incredibly bad grammar from here on out shows that you really live by this standard.

Have you ever thought that when you stand before Jesus and He says “I never knew you”,because you want to follow the world instead of Him.

Have you ever though? At all?

But more to the point, have you ever thought that you only believe in what you do because you weren’t born in Greece a couple millennia or so ago? …or born in Africa? … or born into a JW or LDS family?

Somehow, simply because of the mere accident of when and where you were born and raised, you think you have the ULTIMATE answers. Can you be any more arrogant? …… Does your Bible say anything about arrogance (hint: ‘pride’ is a synonym)?

There is nothing bad about the bible or God or the way people worship.

Really?! First off, have you actually read the Bible? I mean from cover to cover, without missing a word? (Over 75% of “christians” have not, so you’re in good company.)

Are you OK with deities who kill babies for the sins of their parents?

Are you OK with parents who let their kids die because they won’t seek medical care?

Are you OK with people who burn members of their own community because they have been branded as witches? (It still happens today in case you didn’t know.)

Most of you who are making fun and are against any of it, probably are not saved & attending church,or you are & you’ve backslid.

Only took you two posts to get to a “convenient category”. Nice going.

One last thing,their is a difference in childrens behavior,they dont respect anybody,they’ve become lazy,their exposed to sex,drugs,weapons,their killing each other,face it ,its the truth,everything that this country has taken God out of has fallen completely apart.

Given your admitted ignorance could it possibly be that you don’t know what the hell you’re talking about? Have you ever read any primary, historical document? Can you even name an historical movement from before 1965? A social, political, religious, moral movement…??

Can even imagine what it’s like to actually study history? To learn for yourself instead of regurgitating what you’ve been spoon fed?

I hate that so many of you are blinded by the evil in the world.

I hate the way that you are blinded by unconscionable ignorance compounded by deliberate stupidity.

Ignorant people *lack* information. They don’t *need* information, unless they want the benefits of a worldview that more closely reflects reality. That help your head any?

Speaking of ignorance and insults. I love how “I’ll be praying for you” can turn into a condescending term of disgust and revile.

Love, love, love, they will know we are Christians by our love!