And for the record, what do earthly pleasures have anything to do with anything? Women like sex as well. To hear you imply that they don’t (by virtue of your quotation) leads me to think that you mindless trod around “in action” as if that farce could ever pass as “masculinty”, like one of those idiot men who is obsessed with cars and dirtbikes and various machinery to a fault. To me, that’s a boy, not a man. Remember, men have been at the forefront of art and literature for all of history. Sensitivity is a trait the saints, men among men, possessed which didn’t mean limp wristedness, but meant a keep awareness of reality and themselves. Aggression conjured in my mind the idea of an unsettled mind, disturbed, weak, not at peace (as opposed to sedated, which is what machomen are). The image is not one I wish proliferated. Truth is the man’s authority, not an aggressive idiotism.

Getting back, yes, the Church doesn’t appear to have a strong respect for truth anymore.does it appear to challenge the social order and ruffle feathers as necessary. If that’s what you mean, then all is well. The leader here is Christ, but what that does is make each man a leader through him, a brother among brothers, but first and foremost a man of Christ. Men don’t crave a leader in the way you mean it as if that were a “male” trait. I also urge not too talk about accomplishment in the way its being presented because it allows for approval seeking weaklings to latch onto the message. The greatest accomplishment is the work of the soul, not the arrogant, member measuring pride crap we see around ourselves daily.

I think we should move away from the male/female polemic that feminists routinely use (and oddly enough simultaneously deny). It’s hurtful and dehumanizes men and women and leads to a shallow life where we no longer have meaningful relationships of our choosing. we should instead emphasize truth. The mass should not be either “masculine” or “feminine” but the eucharist, the sacrifice. The Church is not a fraternal organization nor is it a philanthropic socoety. If the social dimension is to be organized by the Church, certainly the parish should consider ways in which to best allow for men and women to serve given their particular qualities and strengths (and yes, women have their own strengths).

What piffle.

Just one more example of why religion is bad for women, children and anyone who’s not afraid to think.

I’m not surprised that the institution that treats women as second class citizens,
forces them into care-giving roles by denying them access to leadership,
that shames them for wanting to be fully human the way some men are allowed,
the institution that helps enforce a stereotype of feminity that depends on women being infantilized,
that shames women for being adventurous, danger-loving and risk-taking,
that punishes women for not conforming…

is now being accused of doing the same to men.

I want the freedom to fart too. I want to be fully human. I want adventure and meaning.

There is no room in the fundy church for a woman like that.

Maybe men forget that unless they are top dog in that type of hierarchy they will be forced to be subservient. And they’ve defined subservience as feminine.

They are the victims of their own stereotyping.

Happy are those who are gentle and humble.
Happy are those who are hungry and thirsty for justice.
Happy are those who are merciful.
Happy are those whose hearts are pure.
Happy are those who work for peace”

Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth they little onesagainst the rock Psalms 137.9

The Meek Will Inherit The Earth.

Not Conquer It. -