Comments on: WWJD Series – Jesus and Family Values http://de-conversion.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/ Resources for skeptical, de-converting, or former Christians...... Thu, 09 Feb 2012 19:51:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: WWJD Series: Jesus and anger management « de-conversion http://de-conversion.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-37771 Wed, 14 Oct 2009 18:59:33 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-37771 [...] WWJD Series – Jesus and Family Values [...]

]]> By: The Apostate http://de-conversion.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-25429 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 21:41:52 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-25429

I will continue to pray for you that the scales may be lifted from your eyes.

A common misconception by scientifically-inept fundamentalists – humans don’t have scales. :D

]]> By: LeoPardus http://de-conversion.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-25428 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 19:35:28 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-25428 I think you are truly midunderstanding what Jesus is saying in the verses that you outlined.

Or maybe you are misunderstanding them in your effort to soften their apparent harshness.

We lack humility. In our vanity, we spit in the face of God.

Or our fellow man as we bring our religious “answers” and “wisdom” to straighten out everyone else’s errors.

I will continue to pray for you that the scales may be lifted from your eyes.

Well we won’t pray, but we will hope for you.

]]> By: The Apostate http://de-conversion.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-25426 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:56:12 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-25426 Love To All,

His message is consistant in the fact that God comes first. God is sovereign and he comes first. This is the hardest thing for man to accept in our self absorbed, egotistical and most importantly, rebellious nature.

False syllogism.
Simply because someone doesn’t make “God first” (as if any Christian actually does), does not mean that one is egotistical – why can’t I put my family first?

Secondly, are you willing to go to hell for what you believe? What if, by putting God first, you actually would go to hell? Now that certainly would be an unselfish act, wouldn’t it? The fact is, however, that you believe that you are getting into a utopian world after this one with no suffering. Don’t you think this is putting your wishes first and foremost?

]]> By: Love to All http://de-conversion.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-25425 Sat, 16 Aug 2008 17:41:15 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-25425 I think you are truly midunderstanding what Jesus is saying in the verses that you outlined. His message is consistant in the fact that God comes first. God is sovereign and he comes first. This is the hardest thing for man to accept in our self absorbed, egotistical and most importantly, rebellious nature. We lack humility. In our vanity, we spit in the face of God. Then we cry “Oww!”, when we reap the consequences of it. It is foolish to believe that you can do that and get away with it. God gives us free will. We can choose to follow and obey him or we can choose to be our own God and live according to what we feel is right and wrong. I love you brother. I will continue to pray for you that the scales may be lifted from your eyes. Even still some of us “Christians” give Jesus a bad name by our actions as well.

]]> By: The 10 Commandments are an extremely weak basis for morality « de-conversion http://de-conversion.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-17299 Fri, 21 Mar 2008 04:27:46 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-17299 [...] In addition, one has to question whether these are absolutes when the Bible itself condoned many acts of killing and stealing depending on the circumstance. Jesus was not a big fan of the “honor your father and mother” commandment as discussed in my posts WWJD Series – Jesus and Family Values. [...]

]]> By: The Myth of Bible-based “Family Values” « de-conversion http://de-conversion.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-10835 Tue, 20 Nov 2007 10:03:12 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-10835 [...] 20, 2007 Way back in the beginnings of d-C (yea, March of this year), The de-Convert pasted some troubling examples of what Jesus thinks about family values. Whether it was his youthfully pious mischievousness (Luke [...]

]]> By: Is the New Testament an improvement on Old Testament morality? « de-conversion http://de-conversion.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-5387 Wed, 18 Jul 2007 05:13:13 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-5387 [...] a previous blog, Jesus and Family Values, I used New Testament scriptures to show the views Jesus expressed on family [...]

]]> By: agnosticatheist http://de-conversion.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-203 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:41:05 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-203 paperdots,

Then investigate the loyalty to Jesus family in Judaism. This is what he demanded of his followers.

I’m assuming you did this investigation. Can you help me out and give a brief summary of your findings.

aA

]]> By: paperdots http://de-conversion.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-202 Thu, 29 Mar 2007 11:35:51 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/2007/03/27/wwjd-series-jesus-and-family-values/#comment-202 Aside from all the useless banter, the first question of reasonable consideration should be: Why was Jesus not sent to any people but the lost sheep in the House of Israel?

Then investigate the loyalty to Jesus family in Judaism. This is what he demanded of his followers.

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