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	<title>Comments on: The Circular Reasoning of Christian Apologetics</title>
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		<title>By: catherine</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/04/02/the-circular-reasoning-of-christian-apologetics/#comment-52538</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[catherine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Dec 2011 06:54:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;d really like to know what drives Christians to go witness anyway. I never had the slighted urge.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;d really like to know what drives Christians to go witness anyway. I never had the slighted urge.</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Grison</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/04/02/the-circular-reasoning-of-christian-apologetics/#comment-51866</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Dave Grison]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 Jul 2011 04:59:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Russ, &quot;Why would anyone spend so much time, effort and intelligence on a subject one doesnâ€™t believe to convince others of itâ€™s non-existence?&quot;  Answers - (1) to counter the all-too-frequent chorus of those that wish to &quot;witness&quot; to us. (2) because it&#039;s important not to let the irrationality take over as then we&#039;re screwed.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Russ, &#8220;Why would anyone spend so much time, effort and intelligence on a subject one doesnâ€™t believe to convince others of itâ€™s non-existence?&#8221;  Answers &#8211; (1) to counter the all-too-frequent chorus of those that wish to &#8220;witness&#8221; to us. (2) because it&#8217;s important not to let the irrationality take over as then we&#8217;re screwed.</p>
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		<title>By: Quester</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/04/02/the-circular-reasoning-of-christian-apologetics/#comment-45712</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 18:52:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;youâ€™d think that with a title like that thereâ€™d be some actual evidince inside.&lt;/i&gt;

Well, we can&#039;t really blame McDowell for that. There is no evidence for him to have included. We can blame him for perpetuating the myth that there is such evidence, and profitting from that.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>youâ€™d think that with a title like that thereâ€™d be some actual evidince inside.</i></p>
<p>Well, we can&#8217;t really blame McDowell for that. There is no evidence for him to have included. We can blame him for perpetuating the myth that there is such evidence, and profitting from that.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas / Tomas S</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/04/02/the-circular-reasoning-of-christian-apologetics/#comment-45685</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas / Tomas S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Josh McDowellâ€™s &lt;b&gt;Evidence Demands a Verdict &lt;/b&gt; is special to me because it was right there when I was finally honest with myself that I no longer believed.  As a last attempt to save my faith, I picked up a few books including The Blind Watchmaker (or possibly The Selfish Gene) and BOTH VOLUMES of Josh McDowell&#039;s books.  I kept them for years because I paid good money for them, but you&#039;d think that with a title like that there&#039;d be some actual evidince inside.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh McDowellâ€™s <b>Evidence Demands a Verdict </b> is special to me because it was right there when I was finally honest with myself that I no longer believed.  As a last attempt to save my faith, I picked up a few books including The Blind Watchmaker (or possibly The Selfish Gene) and BOTH VOLUMES of Josh McDowell&#8217;s books.  I kept them for years because I paid good money for them, but you&#8217;d think that with a title like that there&#8217;d be some actual evidince inside.</p>
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		<title>By: Thomas / Tomas S</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/04/02/the-circular-reasoning-of-christian-apologetics/#comment-45684</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Thomas / Tomas S]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:26:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh McDowellâ€™s <b>Evidence Demands a Verdict<b></b> is special to me because it was@Ú&lt;n I was finally honest with myself that I no longer believed.  As a last attempt to save my faith, I picked up a few books including The Blind Watchmaker (or possibly The Selfish Gene) and BOTH VOLUMES of Josh McDowell&#039;s books.  I kept them for years because I paid good money for them, but you&#039;d think that with a title like that there&#039;d be some actual evidince inside.</b></p>
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		<title>By: portwes</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/04/02/the-circular-reasoning-of-christian-apologetics/#comment-45679</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[portwes]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 06:05:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Russ, if you have no interest in testing the credibility of what you believe, then why are you posting here? The reason why we ex-christians are here is because we broke free of the circular reasoning, and learned to think and reason independently, and examine claims of truth as outsiders. We wish to be a support for others who are starting to think for themselves. And there are people every day who discover this site, who suddenly realize they are not alone in their discomfort with their christian beliefs. See comments #7 &amp; #8 as examples. If you have no questions or doubt in the slightest that christianity is the way to know god, then you are wasting your time here. And congratulations on having the ultimate truth on eternal matters: you must be very proud!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russ, if you have no interest in testing the credibility of what you believe, then why are you posting here? The reason why we ex-christians are here is because we broke free of the circular reasoning, and learned to think and reason independently, and examine claims of truth as outsiders. We wish to be a support for others who are starting to think for themselves. And there are people every day who discover this site, who suddenly realize they are not alone in their discomfort with their christian beliefs. See comments #7 &amp; #8 as examples. If you have no questions or doubt in the slightest that christianity is the way to know god, then you are wasting your time here. And congratulations on having the ultimate truth on eternal matters: you must be very proud!</p>
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		<title>By: Quester</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/04/02/the-circular-reasoning-of-christian-apologetics/#comment-45678</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 04:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you want to read the Bible as Jesus did, you have to stick to the Old Testament, and memorize it. *grin*

When I was a teenager, I got stuck on the question, &quot;If Moses wrote the entire Pentateuch, does that include Deuteronomy 34, which describes the death of Moses and what happened after?&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you want to read the Bible as Jesus did, you have to stick to the Old Testament, and memorize it. *grin*</p>
<p>When I was a teenager, I got stuck on the question, &#8220;If Moses wrote the entire Pentateuch, does that include Deuteronomy 34, which describes the death of Moses and what happened after?&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Sarah</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/04/02/the-circular-reasoning-of-christian-apologetics/#comment-45675</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Sarah]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 02:43:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This site is helping me a lot as well.  I found it while questioning certain church teachings and now am finding more to question.

I&#039;m glad that people take the time to respond to everyone, whether our comments are worth the effort or not.

To build on #5, someone once told me that we need to read the bible as jesus did, since he was God.  so, if jesus said moses wrote it then either moses wrote it, or jesus wasn&#039;t god.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This site is helping me a lot as well.  I found it while questioning certain church teachings and now am finding more to question.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that people take the time to respond to everyone, whether our comments are worth the effort or not.</p>
<p>To build on #5, someone once told me that we need to read the bible as jesus did, since he was God.  so, if jesus said moses wrote it then either moses wrote it, or jesus wasn&#8217;t god.</p>
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		<title>By: Quester</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/04/02/the-circular-reasoning-of-christian-apologetics/#comment-45672</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Quester]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jun 2010 02:25:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hear, hear, Mec!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hear, hear, Mec!</p>
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		<title>By: mec</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/04/02/the-circular-reasoning-of-christian-apologetics/#comment-45645</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mec]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:44:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I, for one, am glad they do spend the time, effort, and intelligence.  This site has been a great help to me in the process of deconverting over the last few years.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, for one, am glad they do spend the time, effort, and intelligence.  This site has been a great help to me in the process of deconverting over the last few years.</p>
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