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		<title>By: arrgjonsmad</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/05/05/christianity-believe-first-answers-will-come/#comment-3980</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jul 2007 02:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[man was i really that stupid? what an oss.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>man was i really that stupid? what an oss.</p>
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		<title>By: arrgjonsmad</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/05/05/christianity-believe-first-answers-will-come/#comment-1456</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 16:26:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[PB and J,

I really hope that faith isnt blind because it is a loaded statement when you say &quot;faith is stupid.&quot; Blind or not, the Bible puts a great deal on our faith. Look at these verses and tell me if faith is still stupid, because i cant bring myself to believe it.

Matthew 9:2
Matthew 9:22
Matthew 9:28-30
Matthew 17:20

And in Luke 5:20, a man is forgive of his sins because of his faith. The Bible says by faith are you saved and you call that saving faith stupid, i cant bring myself to understand why? Just a thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PB and J,</p>
<p>I really hope that faith isnt blind because it is a loaded statement when you say &#8220;faith is stupid.&#8221; Blind or not, the Bible puts a great deal on our faith. Look at these verses and tell me if faith is still stupid, because i cant bring myself to believe it.</p>
<p>Matthew 9:2<br />
Matthew 9:22<br />
Matthew 9:28-30<br />
Matthew 17:20</p>
<p>And in Luke 5:20, a man is forgive of his sins because of his faith. The Bible says by faith are you saved and you call that saving faith stupid, i cant bring myself to understand why? Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: arrgjonsmad</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/05/05/christianity-believe-first-answers-will-come/#comment-1272</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 May 2007 17:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Heather, 

You do things every day that you dont think about. This includes believing before seeing. Do you check your seat before you sit in it? Do you check your car inside and out before driving it somewhere? Do you walk around a building and make sure it will stand before you go in? Did you make sure your teacher wasnt crazy before you took her class? Just a thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heather, </p>
<p>You do things every day that you dont think about. This includes believing before seeing. Do you check your seat before you sit in it? Do you check your car inside and out before driving it somewhere? Do you walk around a building and make sure it will stand before you go in? Did you make sure your teacher wasnt crazy before you took her class? Just a thought.</p>
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		<title>By: layguy</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/05/05/christianity-believe-first-answers-will-come/#comment-1201</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[layguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 15:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bring onthe debate!  I welcome the secular scientific attempts at describing origins.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bring onthe debate!  I welcome the secular scientific attempts at describing origins.</p>
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		<title>By: layguy</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/05/05/christianity-believe-first-answers-will-come/#comment-1200</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[layguy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 15:11:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[lol

Atheists do the exact same thing in light of modern science]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol</p>
<p>Atheists do the exact same thing in light of modern science</p>
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		<title>By: Rebecca</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/05/05/christianity-believe-first-answers-will-come/#comment-1190</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rebecca]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 12:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Econ grad,

Who are the parasites feeding off the church?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Econ grad,</p>
<p>Who are the parasites feeding off the church?</p>
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		<title>By: econ grad</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/05/05/christianity-believe-first-answers-will-come/#comment-1177</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[econ grad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 May 2007 04:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Mystery of iniquity, viruses weeding out the fakes, I like that analogy. Also present are parasites feeding off the Church.

Karen, I can&#039;t tell with certainty who the elect are. I can judge by fruits and by love but that&#039;s not infallible. I know I&#039;m among the elect because I have been given what is necessary for faith and devotion and growth. I can show where in the Bible election is verified by growth and unwavering faith, if you&#039;d like to see that.

I can&#039;t relate to an emotional &quot;conversion&quot; experiences. My conversion was an uncomfortable cerebral sort of surrender. &quot;Emotional&quot; experiences occurred later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mystery of iniquity, viruses weeding out the fakes, I like that analogy. Also present are parasites feeding off the Church.</p>
<p>Karen, I can&#8217;t tell with certainty who the elect are. I can judge by fruits and by love but that&#8217;s not infallible. I know I&#8217;m among the elect because I have been given what is necessary for faith and devotion and growth. I can show where in the Bible election is verified by growth and unwavering faith, if you&#8217;d like to see that.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t relate to an emotional &#8220;conversion&#8221; experiences. My conversion was an uncomfortable cerebral sort of surrender. &#8220;Emotional&#8221; experiences occurred later.</p>
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		<title>By: Karen</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/05/05/christianity-believe-first-answers-will-come/#comment-1162</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 15:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Please pull the pretenders and deceived non-elect out of Christianity so the Church can be for the elect alone. &lt;/i&gt;

OOoooh, are you a strict Calvinist?

How do you know who the &quot;elect&quot; are, and why do you assume you&#039;re one of them - if you do?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Please pull the pretenders and deceived non-elect out of Christianity so the Church can be for the elect alone. </i></p>
<p>OOoooh, are you a strict Calvinist?</p>
<p>How do you know who the &#8220;elect&#8221; are, and why do you assume you&#8217;re one of them &#8211; if you do?</p>
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		<title>By: mysteryofiniquity</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/05/05/christianity-believe-first-answers-will-come/#comment-1161</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mysteryofiniquity]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 12:52:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[econ grad,
Well, that&#039;s one way of looking at the whole thing. Sounds a little evolutionary biology as applied to Christianity. Atheists are viruses meant to &quot;weed out&quot; the fake Christians so the &quot;elect&quot; may control the body. Hmmmm.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>econ grad,<br />
Well, that&#8217;s one way of looking at the whole thing. Sounds a little evolutionary biology as applied to Christianity. Atheists are viruses meant to &#8220;weed out&#8221; the fake Christians so the &#8220;elect&#8221; may control the body. Hmmmm.</p>
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		<title>By: econ grad</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/05/05/christianity-believe-first-answers-will-come/#comment-1158</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[econ grad]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 10:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The human mind is so adept at creating a false comforting order and so good at dismissing reality it is hard to tell based on reason alone such deep philosophical questions as the religious and atheists squabble over.

Emotionalism does play too big a role in Christianity and it does sucker a lot into thinking their &quot;in&quot;. That&#039;s a real waste of their precious time on Earth.

From my theological point of view I cheer on atheist efforts. Please pull the pretenders and deceived non-elect out of Christianity so the Church can be for the elect alone. American culture pushes too many non-elect into Church when they should be living lives based on reason and biological urges. The consequences of having the non-elected in Churches is bad for both of us atheists and the elect.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The human mind is so adept at creating a false comforting order and so good at dismissing reality it is hard to tell based on reason alone such deep philosophical questions as the religious and atheists squabble over.</p>
<p>Emotionalism does play too big a role in Christianity and it does sucker a lot into thinking their &#8220;in&#8221;. That&#8217;s a real waste of their precious time on Earth.</p>
<p>From my theological point of view I cheer on atheist efforts. Please pull the pretenders and deceived non-elect out of Christianity so the Church can be for the elect alone. American culture pushes too many non-elect into Church when they should be living lives based on reason and biological urges. The consequences of having the non-elected in Churches is bad for both of us atheists and the elect.</p>
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