It’s comments like yours that make us just shrug our shoulders, again. Do you think that those of us who have left the faith haven’t heard this time and time again? Most of us understand clearly just why you say it. Many of us believed once as you do now. We get it.

Naturally, I’m assuming, you understand that most of us no longer believe the Bible to be infallible. We just don’t. I know this is bothersome to you because you believe we’ll burn in hell. I can’t fault you for your belief. I once believed as you do now.

It’s a scary thought to think that one can be a Christian but later, through study, come to a different conclusion. It’s easier to just say that we were never Christians in the first place. Not only is it easier I think it is comforting to Christians to use that excuse for those of us who have deconverted.

As a former Christian, I can tell you that I don’t believe in Satan. I realize this means nothing to you as you have judged differently. and that’s okay. I get it. I use to believe in Satan too.

It’s a common misunderstanding to believe that those of us who have left the faith are anti-theistic. You’ll find some militant anti-theistic people out there, just as you’ll come across militant anti-atheistic people. In fact, it’s likely that far more theists hate atheists than the other way around. After all, we are Satan’s liars according to you, right?

Merry Christmas

The bible is the source of eye witness accounts and it’s awful to see so many people falling for the lie of anti-theism. You never were a Christian if you claim you are de-converting….you are just exposing yourself as the follower of the Liar, Satan himself.

If we had original manuscripts that we could date, then you might have a case. But we don’t. We don’t even have the first copies of the manuscripts. We have copies of copies of copies of copies, etc etc, and none of our manuscripts even match each other.

Andrew, if believing your books are somehow holy and special makes you happy, then great for you. But for us to accept them as more than ancient books of tall tales, we need something better than your assertions.

I also have to agree that George is getting out of hand, though. He’s reached the point where he’s just repeating the same trash over and over, and it doesn’t seem like he’s going to stop any time soon.

You have not come across as hostile so no apology is necessary about that. You are actually one of the aforementioned exceptions.

Ah, all right. Thanks. When you’d said,

Some want few comments with more content.

I assumed that was a direct reference to me, and therefore a comment on my hostility to you. As I have badly misjudged how I am coming across in a solely text based medium before, I figured it was better to be safe than sorry.

Er, better to be sorry than to cause more harm? Something like that.

Mystery Porcupine,

Those are the kinds of things that I enjoy discussing, not debates about whether prophesy will save my soul or not.

Fair enough. Please do so. Feel free to ask The de-convert for permission to be a writer and write articles on those subjects. When others articles, respond to points that interest you. Ignore George, Mel, and those like them who come, bore us for a month or two, and drive up traffic to this site making sure it stays active for those who need it. They’re their own worst enemies, shooting down their own arguments and supporting our site every time they type a comment. Asking them to change their actions won’t work. Asking the site owner to change his actions might work. Changing your own actions is the most likely thing to actually work. If there are certain types of conversations you want to have, start those types of conversations and see what happens.

I have heard there are mathematic equations that make the prophecies impossible not to be true? Has anyone ever heard of that before?

A book by Josh McDowell, Evidence That Demands a Verdict.

Maybe it was the prophecies about Jesus Christ being the Jewish Messiah.

Anyway, it seems to make sense in light of what is going on with Islam and the Middle East.

Could it really be that there is not an predesigned plan at work? Also, man will not survive this planet.

About a year ago, we had an a astronaut for a client. Blaine Hammond, I had never heard of him. He had made two trips on the shuttle. I had a rare opportunity to spend quality time, what a blast. I also did not know that you can go to the Nasa site and watch video of all the missions inside the shuttle. Very interesting to see.

I asked Blaine why we were doing these missions, the main reason. I know the scientific research, etc.

The reason he gave, with no hesitation was short, to the point, and serious. Blaine said, “we are going to have to leave this planet someday.” At first I thought he was kidding, then I realized he was not. Nuclear war is in our future. When, not if. I hope he, and the mentality of a nation who believes it can wage a nuclear war and win, is dead wrong.

But, this has been the difference between America and Russia for years. I do not believe their world goals have changed.

Russia has tried to destroy Israel by proxy since 1973 and earlier. According to the United Nations reports on nuclear weapons, Israel is highly armed, even though they say they have no nuclear capability, The UN states Israel has a large amount of its weapons trained on Russia, and Russia knows it.

Why are these things shaping up just as the Bible says???

There is far more to it, including the reason for Islam and the 22 Arab states. I hope some of you come to understand. Do not be taken in by the thought that you will die like an ant. Nothing after this life. Do not fall for it.