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	<title>Comments on: Tithing: The Church&#8217;s Greatest Lie?</title>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/06/09/tithing-the-churchs-greatest-lie/#comment-52330</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Nov 2011 05:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The comment against the mandate of paying Tithes and the scriptures to show Tithing is not a mandate for New Covenant Christians was for Christians who come on this site out of curiosity.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment against the mandate of paying Tithes and the scriptures to show Tithing is not a mandate for New Covenant Christians was for Christians who come on this site out of curiosity.</p>
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		<title>By: Church of One</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/06/09/tithing-the-churchs-greatest-lie/#comment-51934</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Church of One]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Sep 2011 17:30:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have had full membership in three major Christian based churches in my lifetime. They all want money. They all justify their wants by thumping a bible. They all spend a majority of the money collected on real estate investment. I have been a Catholic (20 yrs.) , a Baptist (8 yrs.) ,and a Mormon (12 yrs.) The most important thing I have learned is that I don&#039;t ever need to bother with a church again. The churches want you to believe that they have the authority to sell you Salvation. You can be saved without them. Talk to your God, not theirs. Maybe it is your imaginary friend, maybe not. A real God or an imaginary friend will not ask/tell you to hurt someone or to give money to a real estate developer/money launderer/tax evader/child molester/organized crime syndicate, etc. One would be wise to know that Christianity is not the only religion with a claim of being the only true Church. With so many people laying out the claim &quot;I am right and everyone else is wrong!&quot;, why would an intelligent being listen at all anymore? It simply is not possible for all of the conflicting ideologies to be true. It is, however very possible for every single one of them to be wrong. I am not suggesting that you abandon your Faith, but make sure that your Faith lies with your God, not the church and the people running it. Stop giving your money to them. If you need to talk to God, do it. It doesn&#039;t cost anything. If you believe in your Bible, read it. It shouldn&#039;t need interpretation. Were you given a brain and commanded not to use it?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have had full membership in three major Christian based churches in my lifetime. They all want money. They all justify their wants by thumping a bible. They all spend a majority of the money collected on real estate investment. I have been a Catholic (20 yrs.) , a Baptist (8 yrs.) ,and a Mormon (12 yrs.) The most important thing I have learned is that I don&#8217;t ever need to bother with a church again. The churches want you to believe that they have the authority to sell you Salvation. You can be saved without them. Talk to your God, not theirs. Maybe it is your imaginary friend, maybe not. A real God or an imaginary friend will not ask/tell you to hurt someone or to give money to a real estate developer/money launderer/tax evader/child molester/organized crime syndicate, etc. One would be wise to know that Christianity is not the only religion with a claim of being the only true Church. With so many people laying out the claim &#8220;I am right and everyone else is wrong!&#8221;, why would an intelligent being listen at all anymore? It simply is not possible for all of the conflicting ideologies to be true. It is, however very possible for every single one of them to be wrong. I am not suggesting that you abandon your Faith, but make sure that your Faith lies with your God, not the church and the people running it. Stop giving your money to them. If you need to talk to God, do it. It doesn&#8217;t cost anything. If you believe in your Bible, read it. It shouldn&#8217;t need interpretation. Were you given a brain and commanded not to use it?</p>
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		<title>By: cag</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/06/09/tithing-the-churchs-greatest-lie/#comment-51760</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 20:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[nwa chi #131  -  In order to hate, your god has to exist.  Like all the other thousands of gods, yours is non existent.  Imaginary enemies are no threat to anyone who has moved beyond the monster under the bed.

Quoting your proverb 
&lt;blockquote&gt;16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Your wicked imagination has gotten away from you - belief in the imaginary sky monster is, I will aver, an abomination.  Superstitious beliefs, such as in a deity, come from a lying tongue. You come here and expect us to accept your lies, the same lies that were told to you as an all believing child.  It is now time to grow up and realise that passing on lies is far from noble.  

If I do something wrong, it would be totally useless to ask your imaginary friend for forgiveness.  Your god, your jesus and your holy ghost have one thing in common - never existed, don&#039;t exist, never will exist.  Grow up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nwa chi #131  &#8211;  In order to hate, your god has to exist.  Like all the other thousands of gods, yours is non existent.  Imaginary enemies are no threat to anyone who has moved beyond the monster under the bed.</p>
<p>Quoting your proverb </p>
<blockquote><p>16 These six things doth the LORD hate: yea, seven are an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness that speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.</p></blockquote>
<p>Your wicked imagination has gotten away from you &#8211; belief in the imaginary sky monster is, I will aver, an abomination.  Superstitious beliefs, such as in a deity, come from a lying tongue. You come here and expect us to accept your lies, the same lies that were told to you as an all believing child.  It is now time to grow up and realise that passing on lies is far from noble.  </p>
<p>If I do something wrong, it would be totally useless to ask your imaginary friend for forgiveness.  Your god, your jesus and your holy ghost have one thing in common &#8211; never existed, don&#8217;t exist, never will exist.  Grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: nwa chi</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/06/09/tithing-the-churchs-greatest-lie/#comment-51759</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[nwa chi]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jun 2011 06:15:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[plz if u don&#039;t have better thing to introduce to the world ,u better sit down.dont make your self enemy of God,this your planting is seed of backsliding ,proverb 6v16,said about that ur publishing here,and God hate it with passion.make sure you ask for forgiveness .....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plz if u don&#8217;t have better thing to introduce to the world ,u better sit down.dont make your self enemy of God,this your planting is seed of backsliding ,proverb 6v16,said about that ur publishing here,and God hate it with passion.make sure you ask for forgiveness &#8230;..</p>
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		<title>By: Ubi Dubium</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/06/09/tithing-the-churchs-greatest-lie/#comment-51751</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ubi Dubium]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Jun 2011 11:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ann-
&quot;Any good Christian&quot;???  Did you even look at the website where you are?  Apparently not.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ann-<br />
&#8220;Any good Christian&#8221;???  Did you even look at the website where you are?  Apparently not.</p>
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		<title>By: Ann</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/06/09/tithing-the-churchs-greatest-lie/#comment-51747</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ann]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jun 2011 09:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[To Eve&#039;s Apple don&#039;t knock the Guest that bring the word of God. The final authority is the Bible for any good Christian would know this. People need to know what the bible says regarding this subject, esp.  since they obviously don&#039;t study enough to keep from getting mislead by the tithe legalist.  Quit using the excuses that Guest may not be real! That makes you sound .. well ...kind of sorry but like an idiot. We need the truth after being lied to for so long!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Eve&#8217;s Apple don&#8217;t knock the Guest that bring the word of God. The final authority is the Bible for any good Christian would know this. People need to know what the bible says regarding this subject, esp.  since they obviously don&#8217;t study enough to keep from getting mislead by the tithe legalist.  Quit using the excuses that Guest may not be real! That makes you sound .. well &#8230;kind of sorry but like an idiot. We need the truth after being lied to for so long!</p>
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		<title>By: Eve's Apple</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/06/09/tithing-the-churchs-greatest-lie/#comment-51297</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eve's Apple]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Mar 2011 01:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting.   I wasn&#039;t making an argument for or against tithing.  In fact, I don&#039;t recall using the word tithe at all.  Which only increases my conviction that we are dealing with a cleverly pre-programmed machine, one that is incapable of a real conversation.

I may indeed be a fake, but I at least can pass a Turing test!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting.   I wasn&#8217;t making an argument for or against tithing.  In fact, I don&#8217;t recall using the word tithe at all.  Which only increases my conviction that we are dealing with a cleverly pre-programmed machine, one that is incapable of a real conversation.</p>
<p>I may indeed be a fake, but I at least can pass a Turing test!</p>
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		<title>By: BigHouse</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/06/09/tithing-the-churchs-greatest-lie/#comment-51296</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BigHouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Mar 2011 19:09:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Eve’s apple has no good argument for tithing ..&quot;

Because there is NO good argument FOR tithing.

Hoisted by thy own petard!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Eve’s apple has no good argument for tithing ..&#8221;</p>
<p>Because there is NO good argument FOR tithing.</p>
<p>Hoisted by thy own petard!!</p>
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		<title>By: Guest</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/06/09/tithing-the-churchs-greatest-lie/#comment-51292</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Guest]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Mar 2011 07:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Eve&#039;s apple has no good argument for tithing but those who object are not human, yes we are real and you may be the fake!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eve&#8217;s apple has no good argument for tithing but those who object are not human, yes we are real and you may be the fake!</p>
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		<title>By: Eve's Apple</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/06/09/tithing-the-churchs-greatest-lie/#comment-51249</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Eve's Apple]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Feb 2011 22:46:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Has anyone considered the possibility that &quot;Guest&quot; and others like him/her/it might not be human?  Think about it.  &quot;Guest&quot; shows no sign of responding to our conversations but keeps on rambling.  In other words, would &quot;Guest&quot; be able to pass a Turing test?  I don&#039;t think so.  So I am thinking that this particular troll is a computer program.

Don&#039;t laugh.  I am serious.  It&#039;s commonplace now to pick up the phone and make an airline reservation for example and have a perfectly normal conversation with the machine at the other end.  Some of these programs are so good that it&#039;s hard to tell that you are not talking to a human who might have a little difficulty understanding English because it is not his or her first language.  

I suspect that DC is being invaded for some reason; I don&#039;t know why, but ever since all that gibberish started showing up last year I began to think that someone was behind it for a malicious reason.  Any computer shop can tell you that there are a lot of people out there who have nothing better to do with their lives than to think up ways of screwing up other people&#039;s computers.  So it is not beyond reason to think that &quot;Guest&quot; is not what he/she/it appears to be on the surface.  I have noticed that many websites, such as the Weather Channel, require you to type in a scrambled word or two in order to prove that you are not a machine.  It would be very interesting to see what would happen if DC adopted this policy.

Just a thought.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone considered the possibility that &#8220;Guest&#8221; and others like him/her/it might not be human?  Think about it.  &#8220;Guest&#8221; shows no sign of responding to our conversations but keeps on rambling.  In other words, would &#8220;Guest&#8221; be able to pass a Turing test?  I don&#8217;t think so.  So I am thinking that this particular troll is a computer program.</p>
<p>Don&#8217;t laugh.  I am serious.  It&#8217;s commonplace now to pick up the phone and make an airline reservation for example and have a perfectly normal conversation with the machine at the other end.  Some of these programs are so good that it&#8217;s hard to tell that you are not talking to a human who might have a little difficulty understanding English because it is not his or her first language.  </p>
<p>I suspect that DC is being invaded for some reason; I don&#8217;t know why, but ever since all that gibberish started showing up last year I began to think that someone was behind it for a malicious reason.  Any computer shop can tell you that there are a lot of people out there who have nothing better to do with their lives than to think up ways of screwing up other people&#8217;s computers.  So it is not beyond reason to think that &#8220;Guest&#8221; is not what he/she/it appears to be on the surface.  I have noticed that many websites, such as the Weather Channel, require you to type in a scrambled word or two in order to prove that you are not a machine.  It would be very interesting to see what would happen if DC adopted this policy.</p>
<p>Just a thought.</p>
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