I can finally die in peace

June 22, 2007 at 7:30 pm 58 comments

I have never had so much peace about dying as I have since I believe there is no god – and by default, no afterlife. Even as a christian, one always has that nagging doubt about whether you have committed the unpardonable sin, or that god doesn’t really want you, or that you just are not good enough – that not even god can save someone so horrible.

Die in PeaceI am in a new place now. I am in complete peace that when I die that is it. My life is over and nothing will happen afterwards. My new outlook prompts me to make the most of my life while I still breathe. This is a wonderful way to live.

Now I know the christians will come around and send me to hell, but the truth of the matter is that I do not believe hell exists so that game of fear no longer works on me. Sorry. :) - Stellar1

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  • 1. agnosticatheist  |  June 23, 2007 at 12:27 am

    Interesting perspective. A while back I made a post in which I said:

    As a Christian, I was not afraid of dying. Death simply meant I would be in the presence of God enjoying an eternity of blissful happiness. Of course, there was that possibility I would end up in hell but I worked out a belief system that would not ever put me there.

    Now I’m not sure what I believe about death. There’s a part of me that says that my life is all there is and then there’s a part of me that wonders if there is really some sort of existence after life. Do I really have a spirit that lives on beyond the grave?

    I’m glad you found peace. Me, I’m not so sure. There’s a certain comfort in an believing that you KNOW what lies beyond the grave. Uncertainty can be a little unsettling even though I do agree with you that there’s probably nothing beyond this life and we should live it to the fullest and cherish each day.

  • 2. pastorofdisaster  |  June 23, 2007 at 8:57 am

    I have had a similar experience. When I quit believing in a Heaven or Hell my life had a lot more meaning. It was linked to the belief that any God that I believed in would love me immediately, in that moment and not reserve that acceptence for something I did. It has caused me problems with my ordaining governing bodies, but given me a huge amount of peace. I do not believe in delaying the rewards of a fulfilled human existence.

    Just because I don’t believe in an afterlife doesn’t mean that a I do not have hope. Some people worry that I am totally nhilistic when they realize that I believe that everything ends when we stop breathing. I think that many people cannot imagine hope without the possibility of paradise. I caught the hope that leaving such a belief behind has represented in your LIFE.

  • 3. Pedro Timóteo  |  June 23, 2007 at 9:25 am

    Reminds me of this Asimov quote. :)

  • 4. stellar1  |  June 23, 2007 at 10:53 am

    By AA – **I’m glad you found peace. Me, I’m not so sure. There’s a certain comfort in an believing that you KNOW what lies beyond the grave. Uncertainty can be a little unsettling even though I do agree with you that there’s probably nothing beyond this life and we should live it to the fullest and cherish each day.**

    Your comment shows that perhaps you are not so far away from your old belief system. Could you be backsliding back into chrisitianity? I certianly hope not.

    POD,
    You hit it on the mark.

    Pedro,
    What a fantastic quote! Thank you for sharing it.

  • 5. Stephen  |  June 23, 2007 at 12:41 pm

    Even as a christian, one always has that nagging doubt about whether you have committed the unpardonable sin, or that god doesn’t really want you, or that you just are not good enough – that not even god can save someone so horrible.

    That’s universal, is it? There are no Christians who do not experience this nagging doubt?

    I am a Christian, though not of a fundamentalist stripe. I don’t believe God is just looking for a pretext to condemn as many people as he can get away with, and still pass it off as justice.

    For that matter, I don’t believe there’s a hell, a place of eternal torment. Jesus and Paul were both very clear that destruction (aka annihilation) is the ultimate end of those who are never reconciled to God. Regrettably, certain lurid passages in Revelation have overshadowed what is a clear teaching elsewhere in the New Testament. The mistake is to assume that the Bible speaks with one voice on this topic, and therefore all other texts must be read through the prism of a text in Revelation.

    But my main objection to the post is your sweeping generalizations. I am a Christian, but I do not fear God’s condemnation, which I believe is the fate of only a small minority. (There are, after all, some truly wicked people abroad in the world.)

    Your second generalization is, you assume that the way you feel right now is the way you’re going to feel for the rest of your life. Maybe some day you will feel regret that life ends in death and your atoms will be scattered on the four winds, never to be reassembled again.

    Right now, you’re relieved not to fear hell — I can understand that. But this new perspective may not hold up so well over time. Or maybe it will — but it’s a mistake to assume that your emotions are now settled, never to waver again.

  • 6. Stephen 2  |  June 23, 2007 at 12:59 pm

    There was a survey a few months ago (sorry – I can’t immediately find the URL) over fear of death. Atheists had little or no fear of death. Religious people nearly all feared death, and some of them feared it greatly. Only a small number of very devout religious people (mostly Christians – the survey was in the USA) had little or no fear of death.

    In other words, if you are a really devout Christian and really work at it, you can finally achieve the state of mind that atheists start with.

    I would place a small question mark against the first sentence of this post though. I have no fear of death; the actual dying however does somewhat concern me. If I lived in the USA, it would concern me a great deal more.

    You see, if one allows a pet dog or cat to die slowly in agony, and does not take it to the vet to have it put out of its misery, one is looked down upon as cruel and heartless. But when it comes to a relative, the law demands that one be cruel and heartless (except in a handful of enlightened countries). Enable a relative to leave life quickly and painlessly and you will probably be prosecuted; in the USA you definitely will be. And all because of religious dogmatism.

  • 7. Stephen 2  |  June 23, 2007 at 1:07 pm

    Oops – we have two Stephens. I was the second one; my comment looks a bit like a reply to the first, though our comments actually crossed.

    While we’re on quotes, how about the unsurpassed Mark Twain: “I do not fear death. I had been dead for billions and billions of years before I was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it”.

  • 8. superhappyjen  |  June 23, 2007 at 2:07 pm

    I go back and forth on this topic. I certainly don’t want to die, and have a healthy fear of death despite what Stephen’s survey says. But it doesn’t adversely affect my day to day life. I’ve never thought “I wish I were Christian so I could go to heaven.”

  • 9. Heather  |  June 23, 2007 at 4:47 pm

    Stephen (the first one who commented),

    **. Regrettably, certain lurid passages in Revelation have overshadowed what is a clear teaching elsewhere in the New Testament. The mistake is to assume that the Bible speaks with one voice on this topic, and therefore all other texts must be read through the prism of a text in Revelation.**

    I’m really glad you pointed this out, because it’s incredibly how much of fundamentalist Christianity is interpreted through the lens of Revelations. I’ve read the NT quite a few times, and with all the other books, it’s hard to reconcile it with what much of the fundamentalists, and even the conservatives, teach. And then I get to Revelations, and see where it all comes from.

    Which is why it amuses me when fundamentalists tell me to read the Bible, and all questions will be answered. I have all these questions and concerns precisely because I’ve read the Bible. It has quite a few different viewpoints in it.

  • 10. Stephen  |  June 23, 2007 at 9:07 pm

    We’re headed off on a bit of a tangent, but in reply to Heather’s comment —

    As late as 325 A.D., it was still disputed whether Revelation (aka the Apocalypse of John) belonged in the New Testament canon. Eusebius writes,

    “Among the rejected writings must be reckoned also the Acts of Paul, and the so-called Shepherd, and the Apocalypse of Peter, and in addition to these the extant epistle of Barnabas, and the so-called Teachings of the Apostles; and besides, as I said, the Apocalypse of John, if it seem proper, which some, as I said, reject, but which others class with the accepted books. And among these some have placed also the Gospel according to the Hebrews… And all these may be reckoned among the disputed books.”

    There never was much dispute over the four Gospels, Acts, or the letters of Paul (except for the Pastoral Epistles — 1&2 Timothy and Titus). But Eusebius’s account suggests that Revelation was the last book to be recognized as part of the canon. (All the other books he mentions in the above paragraph were ultimately left out.)

    The Syriac Orthodox Church never accepted 2 or 3 John, 2 Peter, Jude or Revelation.

    To be blunt, I think Revelation has led the Church into serious doctrinal error. It would have been better if it had been rejected, as some argued at the time.

  • 11. Jersey Guy  |  June 26, 2007 at 4:44 pm

    Ah, but there is an afterlife, just not the kind seen by traditional religion. The “afterlife”, such as it is, is nothing more and nothing less than the works and memories you leave behind. You will certainly havea “life” beyond the grave, as long as one person reads a story you wrote, views a photography that you took, has a memory of you or has thought of you that was passed on from the memory of others. Yes, for you, the grave is it, or is it?

    R.

  • 12. Melanie Stephan  |  June 30, 2007 at 3:14 pm

    Hi . This is an important message, please read and pass it along. God has made contact. The message is about Revelation. The message is from God, Jesus and the Holy Ghost respectively. It was sent in the Spring of 2006. It is about the meaning of First is Last and Last is First as written in Revelation. The message is this: In the morning I go to Heaven. In the afternoon I live my life. In the evening I die, death. What does this mean? In other words this means Birth is Last and Last is Birth. To understand this don’t think from point A to point B. Think of this as a continous circle of life. Birth is First, Life, Death, Birth is Last, completing the circle. God also said that Judgment will be before Birth in Heaven. AS birth on Earth is painful so will birth in Heaven. It is possible that this message was delivered by one of God’s Angels in the Spring of 2006. Yes, God has made contact and he sent a messenger. Spread this message along, just like a chain letter. Tell two people. Melanie Stephan

    p.s.
    This is not a Joke or a Lie. Jesus has returned in Spirit in the Spring of 2006. Jesus only talked to one person. Again this is not a lie. There is proof that this story is true.

  • 13. rebecca shannon  |  June 30, 2007 at 8:42 pm

    Okay, thanks Melanie. Stellar1 and Moi…you are the two I’m telling.

  • 14. stellar1  |  June 30, 2007 at 9:46 pm

    If I don’t tell anyone, do I go to hell?

  • 15. agnosticatheist  |  June 30, 2007 at 10:12 pm

    We need to have Melanie show us the proof. Maybe the mysterious person filmed the “Spirit Jesus” talking to them. Have a little faith.

  • 16. Melanie Stephan  |  July 12, 2007 at 11:40 am

    Hi Stellar, NO, you don’t go to Hell if you don’t spread the message. Now, that is my personal opinion. When you go to Heaven God is going to give you something. What you get I don’t know. Now I am spreading the message because I want something good. Maybe it will be really big, I don’t know. But I don’t want to end up getting nothing at all. That is just me. Melanie Stephan

  • 17. Melanie Stephan  |  September 5, 2007 at 11:16 am

    You can find part of the proof on another site. The proof is in the story of 3 famous people Mike Douglas, Merv Griffin and Nancy Reagan. I hope you get it. God went to a lot of trouble to get his message out. Read what God had to say during the month of Aug. 2007, on this website: Non-Prophet, Are you going to Hell? God has made contact. He is also worried about all of his creations. He is your Father.

  • 18. shas  |  March 11, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    yes…i think to have peace is when a person die. I never had peace in life, i have been waiting and waiting got peaceful life, till now never been happy in life. Even god gave up on. Hence the only way is DIE, no worries, no hurts…all you have is rest in peace!

  • 19. Melanie  |  October 7, 2008 at 10:15 am

    Correction: To the meaning of First is Last and Last is First. It means that Birth is Last and Birth is First. Sorry for the error. God talks in symbols and opposites at times so it takes time to figure out what he is saying. Some of his messages are clearer than others, plus they have multiple meanings.

    To Shas,
    You sound like a quiter. Dying doesn’t change anything. Your not the only one that has problems on Earth. If you want some meaning to your life, you can help me spread the meaning of First is Last and Last is First. So far I am all alone in this. It’s just Me and God. Give your Dad a hand. Maybe he will do something for you later on.

  • 20. Paige  |  October 7, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Melanie,

    It took a year to get back here and tell us you made an error? Did it take you a year to figure out what God is saying?

    After a year of this, I’d think there’d be more then just you and God out there. How’s it going getting the truth out?

  • 21. Melanie  |  October 8, 2008 at 10:40 am

    Hi Paige,
    Ya it took me a long time to get Gods message about First is Last and Last is First straight. Now I believe that First is Last and Last is First, or the First will be Last and the Last will be First is written in the bible somewhere. Theologians have had almost 2000 years to figure it out, and they haven’t been able to do it. They came up with something entirely different. It never dawned on anyone that First means Birth.

    Now I am not saying I am smarter than anyone else in figuring this out. God was helping me out all the way. Then on the other hand I could have cared less about what it meant. God would not leave me alone on this issue. This is God’s big issue.

  • 22. Cooper  |  October 8, 2008 at 11:48 am

    Melanie—

    I’m not sure where you are getting that it means birth at all. Jesus mentions this in one place in his parable of the workers in the field. In the parable men come early for work and agree for a dollar for the day of work. A few hours later some more men come, and they begin to work. Then, about two hours before the end of the day, a few more come.

    Then, when the day ends, the man begins to pay the workers. He begins with the “last” workers (who are first to be paid) and gives them a dollar. Then he pays the next, then the next, and finally gives a dollar to those who started in the morning. The one’s who started in the morning begin to complain because the last were paid the same amount they were for far less work. The man says “did you not agree to work for me for a dollar?”

    Then Jesus says “So, the first shall be last, and the last shall be first”. The parable has nothing to do with birth.

    Here is the passage:
    “For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man that is an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard. And when he had agreed with the labourers for a penny a day, he sent them into his vineyard. And he went out about the third hour, and saw others standing idle in the market place, And said unto them; Go ye also into the vineyard, and whatsoever is right I will give you. And they went their way. Again he went out about the sixth hour and ninth hour, and did likewise. And about the eleventh hour he went out, and found others standing idle, and saith unto them, Why stand ye here all the day idle? They say unto him, Because no man hath hired us. He saith unto them, Go ye also into the vineyard; and whatsoever is right, that shall ye receive. So when the even was come, the lord of the vineyard saith unto his steward, Call the labourers, and give them their hire, beginning from the last unto the first. And when they came that were hired about the eleventh hour, they received every man a penny. But when the first came, they supposed that they should have received more; and they likewise received every man a penny. And when they had received it, they murmured against the goodman of the house, Saying, These last have wrought but one hour, and thou hast made them equal unto us, which have borne the burden and heat of the day. But he answered one of them, and said, friend, I do thee no wrong: didst not thou agree with me for a penny? Take that thine is, and go thy way: I will give unto this last, even as unto thee. Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? Is thine eye evil, because I am good? So the last shall be first, and the first last: for many be called, but few chosen” (Mt. 20:1-16)

  • 23. Melanie Stephan  |  November 7, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    Cooper,
    Thank you for the Bible story. This story is also symbolic in my mind. When we go to Heaven God will also give us something. Some will get more than others. Now some will complain and say that I was always faithfull to you all my life and received less. There will be other who were not faithfull at all and will receive more. God gives each according to his Will and not to what you think you deserve. That is what I think the meaning of the story above means. That is my opinion.
    Now God says his symbols have many meanings. So the meaning of First is Last and Last is First, could have more than one meaning.

  • 24. Melanie Stephan  |  November 7, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    This is one small piece of proof that God talked to me:

    Like I said earlier, the Holy Spirit talked to me, besides his message about First is Last and Last is First, he had something to say about “Who Killed JFK”. Christ tells me that the man who shot JFK is a policeman. He also tells me the name of the shooter, but it is in a jumbled word. The word is “Fritters”. I see the name F. Ritter right off so I think that is the name of the killer. Now God has lots of other messages for me to figure out, so I put “who Killed JFK” on the back burner for over a year. A year or more later , just recently, I have more time to look for F. Ritter. I can’t find a policeman with that name who lived in Dallas, Texas in 1963. So I am searching for information about who killed JFK and there is a picture of a policeman by the name of J D Tippit. Now Tippit kind of looks like Ritter. Now I unjumble the letters of Ritter to get TIRRET. Now TIRRET looks more like TIPPIT. Now I make the R’s stand at attention, I get TIPPET. One problem is that the I and the E are not the same. So I do some research on the family name TIPPIT. Turns out that in the late 1800’s JD Tippit’s grandfather changed their name from Tippett to Tippit. So the next step I change the E to I. So Tippet is now Tippit.
    Now I have FS Tippit and JD Tippit. The first two initials are not the same. Next I go to Wikipedia there I find; “Some thought that J D stood for “Jefferson Davis” however JD does not stand for anything”. That means his name is just J D. So the initials F S , do not stand for anything. I just have two initials that do not stand for anything. Are you following me?

    Next what does “FRITTERS” mean. If your following my thinking here, God is going to tell you what happened to JD Tippit after he was shot. Fritters are a dough that is deep fried. Bread also means body, like in the last super Christ takes the bread and says this is my body. Look in the dictionary, PIT means HELL. TIP means money paid, gratuity. There are other meanings to. These meanings tell a story.

    JD Tippits body (dough) is placed in the deep fryer (lake of fire). Now I think this clue (Fritters) was ingenius. After all God came up with it. I think he does have a sense of humor too. Kids now have a new game to play. They can play God. Pilsbury dough boy fry’s in the lake of fire. You get HELL! fry baby fry!

    If you think this is just crazy. Remember I am just the messenger. Jesus is the one that had to talk about JFK. So he had a reason for doing that. Only God knows who the killer is. This is proof that Christ talked to me and that is the reason he told me “Who killed JFK”. It is proof. I had forgotten about the case years ago. This is a cold case now, it been 45 years since the shooting.

    I also read the part about giving false prophesy. God says false prophets go to Hell or something like that. I only repeat what God told me. Now what I wrote above is from God. He told me who killed JFK in 2006. The above is not a lie or a joke and I am going to HEAVEN without fear.

    Before I forget. Gods messeges usually have more than one meaning. F S could also stand for “Fence Shooter”.

    Who are the co-conspirators? Turns out that there are two policemen named Tippit, and one Tippett working in the Dallas police Department that same year(1963). Back to the clue word Fritters. That is plural, you know about plural. We have two fritters. The co-conspirators name is Gayle M. Tippit.

    Now the Dallas Police Departtment obviously covered up and framed Oswald. He was the Patsy. They did it cause it is very possible that one of the other police officers rushing to the scene saw Tippet fleeing the scene carrying a rifle. They covered it up because of the embarrassment of one of their own was the man that killed JFK? And the Warren commission must have also figured that out so they stuck with the Dallas Dept. story saying that it was Oswald. It could have been a National embarrassment. Now if you look at the evidence like I did. It is easy to see that the DAllas Police Dept tampered with the evidence over and over again. And they did a very bad job of it too.

    Now this is my opinion, not Gods. I think God is behind the creation of the Internet. I could never have been able to figure out a lot of his messages without the use of the Internet. People on the Net have been a big help to me. God talks to other people too, they just don’t know it. God let me know it was him.

    Now I just made solving the case of “Who shot JFK?”, look easy. I also gave you proof here. Did you see it? You ask where’s the proof. The proof is that it is impossible for anyone to repeat what I just did above. I mean try it. And I do that over and over again in all of God’s messages.
    See if you can make up a word that is a fried food (like fritters). Unjumble the letters to reveal the name of the killer (Tippit). Then divide the word Tippit into words that describe what happened. Tip- means that JD Tippit was paid for the job and the presidency was over turned. Pit – means that he went to Hell for what he did. Pit means the worst Hell.

    See if you can prove me wrong. Show me how easy it is to make up a name like “Fritters” that solves the crime. This clue is ingenious. God came up with the name “FRITTERS”. God is a genius, not me. I am only the messenger.

    Then the two remaining letters F. S. stands for Fence Shooter. It’s INGENIUS!

    Then on top of that it just so happens that there are two Tippit’s working in the Dallas Police Department in 1963. Fritters (plural) means we have more than one Fritter going in the deep fryer . The other shooter is Gayle M. Tippit. He goes to Hell too. Now I did some research on Gayle M Tippit. There is very little information on him unlike JD Tippit. In my search I found two Gayle Tippit’s still in Dallas. One died in 1967 and the other is married and still lives in Texas. So the other conspirator could still be alive and has managed to avoid detection.

    This is where it gets intesting. Does Gayle M. Tippit come forward and ask God to forgive him? I think he also has to ask the American people to forgive him for his part in the murder of the president or he gets the worst Hell just like JD did. God told me that waiting until the 11th hour is too late. God is forgiving, but you can’t wait until your on your death bed to ask to be forgiven.

    Now if Gayle M. Tippit wants to save himself from the deep fryer. (This could be a long fry, not a quick dip.) He has to come forward and ask to be forgiven. He still gets death or Hell but it won’t be the worst Hell. Just like the worst death is being crucified.

    Gods messenger, Melanie Stephan

  • 25. Josh  |  November 7, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Melanie,

    Can I respectfully disagree with you?

    Throughout my teenage years I consistently heard God’s voice in my head, I heard the “fuzzy” words, the suggestions about things. These voices grew until they were out of control.

    Please, for the sake of your own sanity, realize that they are completely an invention in your own mind. I know you will not believe me, but I have experienced what you are talking about and listening to those voices is extremely dangerous. It can lead you to despair and suicidal tendencies. It is NOT God. It is 100% natural.

    I could share more, about the detailed revelations I received etc. but suffice it to say please believe me when I say I understand and what you are getting involved in is bad for you and those around you. Stop listening.

    Watch what you say, you say you can receive revelations from God, but then you admit you do not even know what he says about false prophets (“God says false prophets go to Hell or something like that.”)

    If you cannot even accurately portray what God says in the Bible, why should you trust the voices in your head?

  • 26. LeoPardus  |  November 7, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Well, that was certainly proof enough for me……….. that Melanie needs to return to the happy home with the nice white coat and take the pretty pills again.

  • 27. BigHouse  |  November 7, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    If only Oliver Stone hat taken the time to listen to Melanie, his movie, JFK, could have been a lot shorter and more accurate!

  • 28. Not a Church Goer anymore  |  November 7, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    What in Sam Hill is Melanie smoking, I need some of that!!! hey Mel is JFK in heaven or hell?

  • 29. Josh  |  November 7, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    Hey guys, I know what Melanie is experiencing. One of these days I’ll share it on this site.

  • 30. Blue  |  November 7, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    Melanie it sounds like you might want to get checked schizophrenia. My best friend has it and when he goes off his meds he sounds exactly like you here. Please get some help, you’ll have a lot better time in life.

  • 31. Josh  |  November 7, 2008 at 6:47 pm

    Yeah, I agree with Blue now that I read over those comments again. Even the voices in my head were not that wild…

  • 32. Melanie Stephan  |  November 8, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    That’s right Big House. Oliver Stone should listen.

    As for everyone else. Like I said “It is impossible for you to do with the word “Fritters” like I did above in solving “Who Killed JFK”. God is a genius. You just don’t see it.

    Try to turn the name of, say, Charlie Manson, or any other killers into a name of a deep fried (Lake of Fire) food. Show me how smart you are. You can’t do it Sober or on Drugs. It is impossible for you. Then split his name in two parts to describe what happened. You can’t do it, it is impossible. Only God can do that. He does it over and over again too. God can do things that are impossible for you do.

    Come on show me what you can do?

  • 33. Melanie Stephan  |  November 8, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    I was looking for the origin of the Name Jesus today. Jesus comes from the name Je-Zeus. Greek Je – means hail. Sus – means Zeus. together means Hail Zeus. In the OT the messiahs name is Yeshua. The Romans changed his name to first Iesus as in the 1611 KJV, then in later tinkering, it was changed again to Jesus.

    Google search and you will find the same information that I did. Like I said, God contradicts the New Testament but he does not contradict the OT. The Romans tinkered with the bible.

  • 34. Melanie Stephan  |  November 8, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    When Christ does come. You will not know it is him because you have been deceived. Your all going to be looking in the clouds for him to return. He will most likely come by land. Why? Cause pigs can’t fly and christ can’t either. Get real people, you have been deceived. Water does not turn into Wine – and you can’t walk on water either.

  • 35. guitarstrummr  |  November 8, 2008 at 6:34 pm

    Wow, it all makes so much sense now!

  • 36. LeoPardus  |  November 9, 2008 at 11:12 am

    Thanks for the leg pulling Mel.

  • 37. Melanie Stephan  |  November 9, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    Guitarstrummer,

    Shows wisdom in his comment, even if it is sarcastic.
    Only those that are wise will have understanding.\

    Leopard,
    I wouldn’t pull your leg, even if you had 8 legs to pull.

    Everone Else,

    Now you can’t see God. Like they say, seeing is believing. I can’t show you God. What I can do is give you some kind of proof that the messages are from him. The proof comes in the impossible odds in anyone duplicating what I have done.

    I do that over and over again. I can’t tell you how many times I do that. I also give proof that the message about: “We each die in succession, then we are born on the same day“, is from God. Some of the proof is on the Internet and some is in the Library of Congress. Some of the proof is in the impossible odds of anyone creating the story of 3 famous people like I have, With Gods help. So there.

  • 38. LeoPardus  |  November 9, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    I wouldn’t pull your leg, even if you had 8 legs to pull.

    Nah. Just four, like any other cat.

  • 39. Josh  |  November 9, 2008 at 6:40 pm

    Dang dude. Four legs? I don’t have quite that many…

    *pathetic joke censored*

  • 40. Josh  |  November 9, 2008 at 6:41 pm

    “Only those that are wise will have understanding.”

    I love how the subtle implication is that Melanie is wiser than us all…

  • 41. Melanie Stephan  |  April 14, 2009 at 8:30 pm

    To Cooper,

    You wrote,
    “Then Jesus says “So, the first shall be last, and the last shall be first”. The parable has nothing to do with birth.”

    In rebutal to your comment. Somewhere in the Old testament the Romans found the verse First is Last and Last is First. The Romans clearly didn’t understand the meaning of First is Last and Last is First. When they attributed this verse to Jesus, It was the Romans understanding of what it meant and not what Jesus thought it meant.

    God was very clear that Birth is Last and Birth is First (In that order). That means that Birth happens Last in this life and Birth is First in the next. YOU DON’T DIE ! ! ! Death in never in the picture. Death does not exist. YOU HAVEN’T BEEN BORN YET! !

    Further more I can prove it. The Romans and the Catholic Church can’t prove anything. Furthermore the Romans made up the story about Jesus. The name Je-sus is a Greek name and not a Hebrew name. The Romans made up the name Je-Sus. Go look up the meaning of Sus in Greek. Your not going to like it. That is part of the proof that God talked to me.

    Gods messenger, Melanie

  • 42. paleale  |  April 14, 2009 at 9:45 pm

    To Melanie

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

  • 43. Melanie Stephen  |  May 14, 2009 at 8:50 pm

    To Paleale,

    In the next life I am on Gods left. That means I will be on your right side facing you. I will be seated and you will be standing. We will be going over your book of life. Or what ever is left in your head after your old body is tossed in the trash. You might get a new body, who knows. When I see you on the other side I am going to be laughing even harder at you. It’s almost worth dying just to see the look on your face. My vote is that God gives you a funny looking new body in Heaven.

    Then everyone, besides just me, can have a good laugh.

  • 44. orDover  |  May 14, 2009 at 9:16 pm

    Wow….that’s…sick. Really, it’s disturbing, on so many levels.

  • 45. paleale  |  May 15, 2009 at 12:09 am

    There you have it. We have just met God’s personal secretary. I can see her now, taking notes behind the pearly desk.

  • 46. paleale  |  May 15, 2009 at 5:59 pm

    You know, I guess I should have read previous entries before commenting with my uppercase “HAHA’s”. While I did find the post in reference humorous, had I taken the time to read the thread I would have learned that either A: Melanie is a marvelous trixter with a great sense of practical humor or B: Melanie has psychological issues which are not amusing in the least.

    I apologize to all for my insensitivity and blame it on the wonderful bottle of red zinfandel I had that night.

  • 47. paleale  |  May 15, 2009 at 8:17 pm

    sorry that’s ‘trickster’. Not ‘trixter’. Too much glam-rock in the 80′s. Please accept my apologies.

  • 48. Melanie Stephan  |  November 17, 2009 at 9:08 pm

    I am sorry for showing wrath at those that laugh at me. I am no longer mad at you. I know what I wrote is hard to believe but every word I wrote came from God.

    Why did God pick me to talk to? That is a very hard question for me to answer. This is what I think the answer is: God picked me because I am very average. In many ways I am just like you. God picked an average person just like you. WE are all the same. You don’t have to be important in this world to be picked by God. God sees each and everyone of us as being important. That is why God picked me cause I am just like you.

    OK, you can all laugh again. I don’t care.

  • 49. hyumen  |  November 17, 2009 at 11:16 pm

    Melanie,

    I don’t think you quite get it. God does not exist. How can every word you wrote come from something that doesn’t exist?

    Listen, sweetie. You are not going to convert us. So find something else better to do with your time.

  • 50. Roy  |  November 19, 2009 at 2:05 pm

    Melanie,

    I don’t exactly know how to take you, but if these comments reflect the real you, please see a psychiatrist. For your own sake.

  • 51. Joe  |  November 19, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    What if Melanie IS a psychiatrist?

  • 52. Roy  |  November 19, 2009 at 6:10 pm

    Then she might need to increase her meds.

  • 53. Deluxion  |  July 8, 2010 at 5:07 am

    I think your right
    and I’m passing through the stage
    you talk about.
    I want to get to that feeling were
    nothing else matters and you feel peace in dying.
    I know there’s peace in death but to have serenety as you lay to eternal bliss.

  • 54. Strong jon  |  April 14, 2011 at 1:20 pm

    I here you mate . We all just go back to the earth we came from. Heaven and he’ll were thought up by people hundreds of years ago who believed the world was flat with monsters in it , as a means to control society and calm the fear of their lack of knowledge. Be free.

  • 55. Bob  |  April 15, 2011 at 12:48 pm

    Man on Krakatoa, 1883, shortly before the volcanic blast: “Santorini? Oh, you mean that fable about some huge explosion in Greece that destroyed their civilization? That was invented as a means to control society and instill fear to keep everyone in line”.

  • 56. BigHouse  |  April 15, 2011 at 3:26 pm

    What’s you point, Bob?

  • 57. Melanie Stephan  |  October 5, 2013 at 8:19 pm

    And you think I need help, how about Bob here with his comment # 55. April 15, 21011. What the heck is he talking about. If anyone has a clue let me know?

  • 58. Alban  |  October 8, 2013 at 12:58 pm

    Bob aside momentarily…on a previous comment…what if there is no ego at death…can we really laugh at other ‘s ignorance? Can we gloat if we have have lived in and by a similar ignorance, even though it appeared to be, to you, more noble, more “Godlike” while you were alive? Reality or transferance of resentment?

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