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]]> By: Thinking Ape http://de-conversion.com/2007/07/29/the-persecution-complex/#comment-6304 Thinking Ape Sat, 04 Aug 2007 15:43:02 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/07/29/the-persecution-complex/#comment-6304 societyvs says, <blockquote>true Christians are still being persecuted for calliing out truth - see my post on boycotting religion(s).</blockquote> so are true Muslims, true Buddhists, true Falun Gong, true Hindus, etc. Persecution will only stop when one religion will wipe out all the others (probable), or when humankind evolves out of religion (improbable). societyvs says,
true Christians are still being persecuted for calliing out truth – see my post on boycotting religion(s).

so are true Muslims, true Buddhists, true Falun Gong, true Hindus, etc. Persecution will only stop when one religion will wipe out all the others (probable), or when humankind evolves out of religion (improbable).

]]> By: societyvs http://de-conversion.com/2007/07/29/the-persecution-complex/#comment-6284 societyvs Sat, 04 Aug 2007 07:30:49 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/07/29/the-persecution-complex/#comment-6284 I am glad you posted this - true Christians are still being persecuted for calliing out truth - see my post on boycotting religion(s). I am glad you posted this – true Christians are still being persecuted for calliing out truth – see my post on boycotting religion(s).

]]> By: Thinking Ape http://de-conversion.com/2007/07/29/the-persecution-complex/#comment-6050 Thinking Ape Mon, 30 Jul 2007 21:01:47 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/07/29/the-persecution-complex/#comment-6050 Justin, For sure! There are many middle eastern countries that are tolerant, but the new wave of Islamic extremism has made it very difficult for anyone who isn't a Muslim - despite explicit references in the Quran for Jews, Christians, and Muslims to come together in their similarities rather than exploit their differences (i.e. 3:64ff). But the Muslim-Christian issue is hardly exclusive. Christians in China have been persecuted in the ultimate displays of complete intolerance OF religion (which, one could argue, has created a religion of state worship). Like I said, where these is difference, there will be persecution. Justin,
For sure! There are many middle eastern countries that are tolerant, but the new wave of Islamic extremism has made it very difficult for anyone who isn’t a Muslim – despite explicit references in the Quran for Jews, Christians, and Muslims to come together in their similarities rather than exploit their differences (i.e. 3:64ff).
But the Muslim-Christian issue is hardly exclusive. Christians in China have been persecuted in the ultimate displays of complete intolerance OF religion (which, one could argue, has created a religion of state worship). Like I said, where these is difference, there will be persecution.

]]> By: Justin http://de-conversion.com/2007/07/29/the-persecution-complex/#comment-6047 Justin Mon, 30 Jul 2007 20:04:02 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/07/29/the-persecution-complex/#comment-6047 I think American Christians are not persecuted that much...especially compared to the first Christians. In fact, American Christians are often persecutors. However, the Middle East is a different story. Christians there go through horrific experiences and many are "closet" Christians because they fear being murdered if discovered. I think American Christians are not persecuted that much…especially compared to the first Christians. In fact, American Christians are often persecutors. However, the Middle East is a different story. Christians there go through horrific experiences and many are “closet” Christians because they fear being murdered if discovered.

]]> By: Thinking Ape http://de-conversion.com/2007/07/29/the-persecution-complex/#comment-6046 Thinking Ape Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:55:22 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/07/29/the-persecution-complex/#comment-6046 Brad also said, "(i.e. “All Christians are judgmental” v. “Many people who call themselves Christians are judgmental”)." I hope my post was clear that I was not speaking as though I believed the former. However, <blockquote>According to surveys of voters leaving the polls, Bush won 79 percent of the 26.5 million evangelical votes and 52 percent of the 31 million Catholic votes.</blockquote> That is almost 8 of every 10 evangelicals voting for one of the worst leaders in American history and fit the profile as one of the most intolerant anti-democratic leaders in the history of democracy. Christians, I am sorry to say, make their own bed. Brad also said, “(i.e. “All Christians are judgmental” v. “Many people who call themselves Christians are judgmental”).”

I hope my post was clear that I was not speaking as though I believed the former. However,

According to surveys of voters leaving the polls, Bush won 79 percent of the 26.5 million evangelical votes and 52 percent of the 31 million Catholic votes.

That is almost 8 of every 10 evangelicals voting for one of the worst leaders in American history and fit the profile as one of the most intolerant anti-democratic leaders in the history of democracy. Christians, I am sorry to say, make their own bed.

]]> By: Thinking Ape http://de-conversion.com/2007/07/29/the-persecution-complex/#comment-6045 Thinking Ape Mon, 30 Jul 2007 19:49:34 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/07/29/the-persecution-complex/#comment-6045 Brad said, "I agree, but on the other hand, discrimination against Christians seems to be the last approved bigotry in the U.S." This appears as a common statement in Christian America - I believe I have said it myself. But what does this even mean? What is "approved bigotry"? Approved by who? I sat there and watched atheists get slammed by 3 Christians on CNN with no representation for debate. Or how about how Americans feel towards Muslims? A recent Gallop poll showed that 39% of Americans admit prejudice towards Muslims (http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=24073) even though 59% of Americans do not even know a Muslim. 10% of those that know a Muslim said they would not want a Muslim as a neighbour (compared to 31% of those that do not know one). So what is "approved bigotry"? And how would you support your claim that Christians are the "last approved bigotry in the U.S." without basically falling into the persecution complex yourself? Brad said, “I agree, but on the other hand, discrimination against Christians seems to be the last approved bigotry in the U.S.”

This appears as a common statement in Christian America – I believe I have said it myself. But what does this even mean? What is “approved bigotry”? Approved by who? I sat there and watched atheists get slammed by 3 Christians on CNN with no representation for debate. Or how about how Americans feel towards Muslims? A recent Gallop poll showed that 39% of Americans admit prejudice towards Muslims (http://www.galluppoll.com/content/?ci=24073) even though 59% of Americans do not even know a Muslim. 10% of those that know a Muslim said they would not want a Muslim as a neighbour (compared to 31% of those that do not know one).

So what is “approved bigotry”? And how would you support your claim that Christians are the “last approved bigotry in the U.S.” without basically falling into the persecution complex yourself?

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