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		<title>By: bipolar2</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/04/my-life-of-proselytization/#comment-6963</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Aug 2007 00:15:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The &quot;One Way&quot; is a dead end.

All that matters: which way is your way . . . ones you&#039;ve made by yourself for yourself.

bipolar2]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The &#8220;One Way&#8221; is a dead end.</p>
<p>All that matters: which way is your way . . . ones you&#8217;ve made by yourself for yourself.</p>
<p>bipolar2</p>
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		<title>By: The de-Convert</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/04/my-life-of-proselytization/#comment-6739</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The de-Convert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 04:45:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Frreal,

Thanks for lurking.  Many of our contributors are not anti-theists but consider themselves more apostates. 

Check out our sister site ( www.de-conversion.org ) where there&#039;s a forum for open discussion.

I haven&#039;t read Spencer&#039;s blogging the Quran site so I&#039;m not sure what the format is but here&#039;s a blog I&#039;ve been doing on Bible verses:

http://literalbible.blogspot.com

Paul]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frreal,</p>
<p>Thanks for lurking.  Many of our contributors are not anti-theists but consider themselves more apostates. </p>
<p>Check out our sister site ( <a href="http://www.de-conversion.org" rel="nofollow">http://www.de-conversion.org</a> ) where there&#8217;s a forum for open discussion.</p>
<p>I haven&#8217;t read Spencer&#8217;s blogging the Quran site so I&#8217;m not sure what the format is but here&#8217;s a blog I&#8217;ve been doing on Bible verses:</p>
<p><a href="http://literalbible.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://literalbible.blogspot.com</a></p>
<p>Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Frreal</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/04/my-life-of-proselytization/#comment-6734</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frreal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Aug 2007 03:58:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[New Lurker from HotAir.  I suggested a Blogging the Bible from a Conservative viewpoint (minus the Rove &amp; Rumsfeld references as in Slate) to conincide with Spencer&#039;s blogging the Quran.   Nice site.  I am a fairly new (07) deconvert.   Though I am not antitheist I am very pro truth and critical thinking.   Just what the Conservative base needs.  Catch me now while I am still in the militant phase of deconversion.  Who knows how long it will last.  Maybe we can get AP to jump on?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New Lurker from HotAir.  I suggested a Blogging the Bible from a Conservative viewpoint (minus the Rove &amp; Rumsfeld references as in Slate) to conincide with Spencer&#8217;s blogging the Quran.   Nice site.  I am a fairly new (07) deconvert.   Though I am not antitheist I am very pro truth and critical thinking.   Just what the Conservative base needs.  Catch me now while I am still in the militant phase of deconversion.  Who knows how long it will last.  Maybe we can get AP to jump on?</p>
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		<title>By: HeIsSailing</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/04/my-life-of-proselytization/#comment-6620</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HeIsSailing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:30:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Oh dear, I go on holiday and ol&#039; de-Convert snags an old article I wrote, changes the title and slaps it on this site.  Well, I did give him permission to do so *smirk*

Heather sez:
&lt;blockquote&gt;
Granted, I didn’t know you before your de-conversion process, so you could’ve been happy and peaceful then. It just sounds like you weren’t, and are in a much better place now.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Believe it or not, I was very happy.  Right up until the end there, I was a very content and satisfied Christian.  But I was also stagnant.  When I started stirring the pot again, ie Bible studies with my wife, confronting non-Christians again - that is when my faith started to collapse.  As far as inviting homeless people into my home so I could evangelize to them, I did it because... .I don&#039;t think guilt is the right word.  I was genuinely concerned for them, and even made some friends.  I usually fed them and let them sleep on my couch for the night before they moved on.  And I made a point of evangelizing since I felt I had a captive audience.  The only time I think I truly felt guilt when evangelizing was when I preached to my own family.  Don&#039;t ask me why.

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Abhay sez:
&lt;blockquote&gt;If you will stop reading Bible in letter but in Spirit, those problem will go…&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Abhay, I would love to respond, but I did not understand a word of your reply.  Sorry.

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joejames sez:
&lt;blockquote&gt;I think the two verses you gave need some context… Christians are always screwing that last one up big time!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Hi Joe.  Perhaps you could provide some of my missing context.  If you do, would it clarify matters any?

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john sez:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Hello, I have to say I dissagree with you.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

and quite vociferously you do!!  I will have to read your response and reply to it later!

Thanks to everyone else for your replies!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, I go on holiday and ol&#8217; de-Convert snags an old article I wrote, changes the title and slaps it on this site.  Well, I did give him permission to do so *smirk*</p>
<p>Heather sez:</p>
<blockquote><p>
Granted, I didn’t know you before your de-conversion process, so you could’ve been happy and peaceful then. It just sounds like you weren’t, and are in a much better place now.</p></blockquote>
<p>Believe it or not, I was very happy.  Right up until the end there, I was a very content and satisfied Christian.  But I was also stagnant.  When I started stirring the pot again, ie Bible studies with my wife, confronting non-Christians again &#8211; that is when my faith started to collapse.  As far as inviting homeless people into my home so I could evangelize to them, I did it because&#8230; .I don&#8217;t think guilt is the right word.  I was genuinely concerned for them, and even made some friends.  I usually fed them and let them sleep on my couch for the night before they moved on.  And I made a point of evangelizing since I felt I had a captive audience.  The only time I think I truly felt guilt when evangelizing was when I preached to my own family.  Don&#8217;t ask me why.</p>
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Abhay sez:</p>
<blockquote><p>If you will stop reading Bible in letter but in Spirit, those problem will go…</p></blockquote>
<p>Abhay, I would love to respond, but I did not understand a word of your reply.  Sorry.</p>
<p>***********************************</p>
<p>joejames sez:</p>
<blockquote><p>I think the two verses you gave need some context… Christians are always screwing that last one up big time!</p></blockquote>
<p>Hi Joe.  Perhaps you could provide some of my missing context.  If you do, would it clarify matters any?</p>
<p>*****************************</p>
<p>john sez:</p>
<blockquote><p>Hello, I have to say I dissagree with you.</p></blockquote>
<p>and quite vociferously you do!!  I will have to read your response and reply to it later!</p>
<p>Thanks to everyone else for your replies!!</p>
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		<title>By: athinkingman</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 14:41:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks.  I enjoyed your post and found it moving.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks.  I enjoyed your post and found it moving.</p>
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		<title>By: Zoe</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/04/my-life-of-proselytization/#comment-6597</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zoe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 13:25:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Neo2,

*sigh*  Brainwashed is a good term.  I use to hate the term.  One day I understood why.  Because I too was literally being brainwashed.  I fought it tooth and nail and eventually got out.

Interestingly enough, before leaving the church (the 3rd Baptist church I had attended) I went to a Christian therapist who just happened to be a prof of mine in Bible college.

When we discussed church things he&#039;s the one who used the term &quot;brainwashing.&quot;  Fancy that, eh?  He described how this past church of ourse just kept playing the same records over and over again and how that just gets so implanted in our heads, we can&#039;t hear anything else.  Replacing the brainwashed mantra in one&#039;s head is very difficult even when you have good help.

I&#039;m sorry she isn&#039;t seeing the light regarding these churches you have been in.  Sorry about your injuries as well.  It&#039;s typical in many churches to blame illness, disaster, &amp; tragedy on your leaving the church.  It&#039;s a way of keeping people under their control and in the church.  Fear, fear and more fear!  

*sigh*]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neo2,</p>
<p>*sigh*  Brainwashed is a good term.  I use to hate the term.  One day I understood why.  Because I too was literally being brainwashed.  I fought it tooth and nail and eventually got out.</p>
<p>Interestingly enough, before leaving the church (the 3rd Baptist church I had attended) I went to a Christian therapist who just happened to be a prof of mine in Bible college.</p>
<p>When we discussed church things he&#8217;s the one who used the term &#8220;brainwashing.&#8221;  Fancy that, eh?  He described how this past church of ourse just kept playing the same records over and over again and how that just gets so implanted in our heads, we can&#8217;t hear anything else.  Replacing the brainwashed mantra in one&#8217;s head is very difficult even when you have good help.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry she isn&#8217;t seeing the light regarding these churches you have been in.  Sorry about your injuries as well.  It&#8217;s typical in many churches to blame illness, disaster, &amp; tragedy on your leaving the church.  It&#8217;s a way of keeping people under their control and in the church.  Fear, fear and more fear!  </p>
<p>*sigh*</p>
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		<title>By: neo2</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/04/my-life-of-proselytization/#comment-6586</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[neo2]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 03:10:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hello Again,
    It has been months since I posted my deconversion story from the baptist church while my wife continued on her great religious ferver. As much as I hate to say this I am currently seeking a divorce attorney, I can&#039;t take the nonsense anymore. I have had two injuries since I have left the church and stopped tithing. I stopped tithing a few months before I actually left the church. I ended up tearing my calf muscle and having a double hernia. The surgeon told me that from the symptoms I described that I probably had had the hernias for almsot 10 years. The calf injury happened becuase i am becoming older and have been a couch potatoe for a while. I ended up being talked into playing a football game in 30 degree weather, I cut and my calf snapped. Of course I was told by my wife the reason why I had the hernia&#039;s and tore my calf was because I had quit tithing and left the church, wow. In our five year marriage we have been in four corrupt baptist churches and she still does not get it. Actually one of the financial persons at a church we left just told us that the pastor is on his way to becoming a milionaire. This is the same pastor that put on a skit about a guy buying a boat and that it was a sin because he should have used that money to furtthrer the work of God. The people in his church have no ideal of the wealth he has aquired because of the church, he has no other job. His flock cannot buy boats but he can become a millionaire, go figure. The other three churches have not been any better. You think after being burned by every baptist church you have been to that you might learn but her answer to the solution is  to go to a different baptist church. Of course when i bring up all the corruption and evil things that we have wittnessed in our church life she runs to her fellow baptists for an answer. Of course they always have some cockamamy answer or excuse. Here is a list of the acts I have witnessed in five years, using your church to make yourself wealthy, illegal money laundering in 2 different churches, one pastor stepped down due to child molestation charges, not allowing members back unto church property by force of the law for no reason except they disagreed with the pastor, every single pastor has been caught in outright lies, and 5 other baptist church splits in our area for which I do not know the reason. You think after all of this me wife might get the ideal but as always the next baptist church will be different. Of course she said that about the last 4 churches also. One word, brainwashed!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello Again,<br />
    It has been months since I posted my deconversion story from the baptist church while my wife continued on her great religious ferver. As much as I hate to say this I am currently seeking a divorce attorney, I can&#8217;t take the nonsense anymore. I have had two injuries since I have left the church and stopped tithing. I stopped tithing a few months before I actually left the church. I ended up tearing my calf muscle and having a double hernia. The surgeon told me that from the symptoms I described that I probably had had the hernias for almsot 10 years. The calf injury happened becuase i am becoming older and have been a couch potatoe for a while. I ended up being talked into playing a football game in 30 degree weather, I cut and my calf snapped. Of course I was told by my wife the reason why I had the hernia&#8217;s and tore my calf was because I had quit tithing and left the church, wow. In our five year marriage we have been in four corrupt baptist churches and she still does not get it. Actually one of the financial persons at a church we left just told us that the pastor is on his way to becoming a milionaire. This is the same pastor that put on a skit about a guy buying a boat and that it was a sin because he should have used that money to furtthrer the work of God. The people in his church have no ideal of the wealth he has aquired because of the church, he has no other job. His flock cannot buy boats but he can become a millionaire, go figure. The other three churches have not been any better. You think after being burned by every baptist church you have been to that you might learn but her answer to the solution is  to go to a different baptist church. Of course when i bring up all the corruption and evil things that we have wittnessed in our church life she runs to her fellow baptists for an answer. Of course they always have some cockamamy answer or excuse. Here is a list of the acts I have witnessed in five years, using your church to make yourself wealthy, illegal money laundering in 2 different churches, one pastor stepped down due to child molestation charges, not allowing members back unto church property by force of the law for no reason except they disagreed with the pastor, every single pastor has been caught in outright lies, and 5 other baptist church splits in our area for which I do not know the reason. You think after all of this me wife might get the ideal but as always the next baptist church will be different. Of course she said that about the last 4 churches also. One word, brainwashed!</p>
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		<title>By: The de-Convert</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/04/my-life-of-proselytization/#comment-6584</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The de-Convert]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:48:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well, hopefully it was a cut and paste job if no one is reading it :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, hopefully it was a cut and paste job if no one is reading it <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: blackst3</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[blackst3]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:14:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I skimmed the whole thing. It&#039;s not worth it. More guilt, satan, and accusations of weakness. It&#039;s a step backward from HeIsSailing&#039;s post.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I skimmed the whole thing. It&#8217;s not worth it. More guilt, satan, and accusations of weakness. It&#8217;s a step backward from HeIsSailing&#8217;s post.</p>
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		<title>By: notabarbie</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/04/my-life-of-proselytization/#comment-6535</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[notabarbie]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 03:56:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sorry Thinking Ape, I can&#039;t really help much, I nodded off at, &quot;Do you realize that one little thing can cause the damnation of your soul if you let it?”  I rallied for a second and read, blah, blah, blah, Satan and I was down for the count.  Maybe I&#039;ll drink a triple espresso and try again later.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry Thinking Ape, I can&#8217;t really help much, I nodded off at, &#8220;Do you realize that one little thing can cause the damnation of your soul if you let it?”  I rallied for a second and read, blah, blah, blah, Satan and I was down for the count.  Maybe I&#8217;ll drink a triple espresso and try again later.</p>
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