Comments on: The hypocrisy of today’s Christian Leaders http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/ Resources for skeptical, de-converting, or former Christians...... Wed, 19 Jun 2013 00:52:35 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: joshm http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6623 Thu, 16 Aug 2007 04:20:59 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6623 Marie-

I’m sorry to hear about the action of those two pastors, though I am not surprised. I am glad to hear they were fired, as they should have been.

A pastor should not be given the great amounts of power that some congregations give them. Pastors need to be held accountable for what they do just like the rest of us.

]]> By: PalMD http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6611 Wed, 15 Aug 2007 23:03:06 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6611 It is certainly our place to judge. In fact we have a whole legal system based on that idea. If we were to follow “the word” too closely, we would do away with courts and judges.

]]> By: marie http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6573 Tue, 14 Aug 2007 20:02:04 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6573 the two head pastors of my parents’ church were fired in the last month for
1. stealing funds and charging gambling/porn to church money
2. stealing musical equipment

this is not the exception it seems
power corrupts and religion is power

]]> By: SlowMovingDreams http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6537 Mon, 13 Aug 2007 04:41:21 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6537 I realize that this type of “celebrity” approach to treating Christian “leaders” is nothing new, but this is one of the main reasons that I’ve rejected most of what goes on at a Promise Keepers meeting. In the name of honoring their “men of God,” they, perhaps inadvertently, promote the worship of these men.

To be sure, many pastors labor in very difficult situations with little or no recognition. But most of these men (and women) realize their reward comes from somewhere else than the recognition of people.

This doctrine of “celebrity” is pure evil because it corrupts what can be pure.

]]> By: joshm http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6510 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 05:51:47 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6510 The de-Convert-
I have often struggled with this same issue. However, we must not, as Mike has pointe4d out, fall into a hasty generalization fallacy. If we only look at “Christian” leaders on T.V., or only in megachurchs we run an even greater risk of committing this fallacy because people in these positions are likely to develop pride issues. Furthermore, the position of televangelist would likely attract the egotistical.

]]> By: societyvs http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6509 Sun, 12 Aug 2007 05:01:09 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6509 The de-Convert, I love the point your making – it’s about damn time anyone involved in any Christian denomination started to believe what the teachings they read actually say! The de-Convert called it like it is and I ain’t gonna make an excuse for this attitude at all – this is based on someone’s experience and I won’t easily discount it – I have seen this also – and no one says ‘jack’. Actually if you call it out you will likely be the one swallowed whole by the machine and then spit out. I am still a Christian – but I will never excuse this attitude of superiority!

]]> By: StaCeY http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6491 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 09:15:19 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6491 LOL! It’s really funny what I just wrote…

“How will I ever be authentic if I am so busy being led..
“by this doctrine… by that propaganda…
by all the “brand” names”…
by my neighbor… my “enemy” … my “wife”…
that I never come to know the TRUE POSSIBILITIES
of my own unique existance in God?”

I wrote “my wife” …
because in my own mind I was thinking back to eve…
of whom I wrote earlier in my post.

However… I certainly SHOULD have included …
“my husband”… ESPECIALLY in light of recent convos.
here and at other related blogs.

Just wanted to clarify that I WAS NOT…
being sexist.

]]> By: StaCeY http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6490 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 08:00:40 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6490 “It is time for authenticity in this day and age. the people to demand change are the masses that follow and that time to do that is now.
If we don’t demand a change who will?”
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I would say that “the faith portal” is within.

There is no one on this earth that I can change but myself.

The masses listen to their “leaders”.
Their mistake.

This must change…
one individual at a time…
if there is ever to be any hope of authenticity…
in anyone.

On the “eve” of corruption …
the double forked tongue…
spun a seductive tail…

and the first half of humanity
took the bait/bite.

the other half of humanity
then followed the first half
blindly and brainlessly.

oh you’ve got an “apple” pod?
I- I- I- I- I want one too!

and thus has been the story ever since.

Whose but the voice of God…
in the inner garden…
would you then follow?

this whole freikin power structure of a world
does nothing but “demand” we conform
from day one. it sucks.

How will I ever be authentic if I am so busy being led..
“by this doctrine… by that propaganda…
by all the “brand” names”…
by my neighbor… my “enemy” … my “wife”…
that I never come to know the TRUE POSSIBILITIES
of my own unique existance in God?

What do we forfiet by handing over the authority of our lives
to other human beings? other men… and serpents alike?

Senior Pastors and Presidents
would all fall away
if there were a true awakening of the masses.
(perhaps this is not what they really want?)
(just ask Jesus what happened to him.)
(shall we include martin Luther King and kennedy as well?)

If WE don’t change… who will?

]]> By: thefaithportrait http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6489 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 04:23:25 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6489 If we don’t demand a change who will?

]]> By: thefaithportrait http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6488 Sat, 11 Aug 2007 04:20:32 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/10/the-hypocrisy-of-todays-christian-leaders/#comment-6488 It is time for authenticity in this day and age. the people to demand change are the masses that follow. and that time is now

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