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		<title>By: Deidre25BURTON</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/14/new-age-christianity/#comment-44243</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 01:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I would like to propose not to hold off until you earn big sum of cash to buy all you need! You can get the &lt;a href=&quot;http://lowest-rate-loans.com/topics/business-loans&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://lowest-rate-loans.com&lt;/a&gt; or just commercial loan and feel yourself comfortable]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would like to propose not to hold off until you earn big sum of cash to buy all you need! You can get the <a href="http://lowest-rate-loans.com/topics/business-loans" rel="nofollow">http://lowest-rate-loans.com</a> or just commercial loan and feel yourself comfortable</p>
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		<title>By: Mireya</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/14/new-age-christianity/#comment-6700</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Aug 2007 01:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi nice post, i enjoyed it]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi nice post, i enjoyed it</p>
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		<title>By: gbv23</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/14/new-age-christianity/#comment-6647</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 22:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I like the questions at the end of the post:

Fundie Christians cling to their version of the Bible and thus &quot;damn&quot; everybody who doesn&#039;t (new-agers included)

The domga and doctrines of Christianity are mostly man-made (St. Paul was NOT Jesus) 

....AND there has been a long tradition of &quot;new-age&quot; Christianity---that is: reclaiming the message of love &amp; compassion rather than guilt and fear.  

My current favorites are the books of &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.garyrenard.com/Preview.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Gary Renard&lt;/a&gt; which are related to &lt;a&gt;ACIM&lt;/a&gt; (an inspiring correction to Christianity) I also liked the large Jesus bio included in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.urantia.org/papers/paper188.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Urantia&lt;/a&gt;

One of the leading Angel people is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.angeltherapy.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Doreen Virtue&lt;/a&gt;, 

I would also point-out that many of the &quot;Magick&quot; crowd (western inner tradition, OTO et al) also talk to angels using the &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Enochian&lt;/a&gt; system developed by Dr. Dee way back in 1500 --and those Magick-types are (ironically) mostly dismissive of anything too fluffy or &quot;new-age&quot;

In summary --- I don&#039;t buy the distortions of the man-made Church but trust that natural inner-knowing to which we all have access IF we can get the materialist ego-mind to quiet-down long enough to hear the higher voice. Angels don&#039;t always answer with a voice.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the questions at the end of the post:</p>
<p>Fundie Christians cling to their version of the Bible and thus &#8220;damn&#8221; everybody who doesn&#8217;t (new-agers included)</p>
<p>The domga and doctrines of Christianity are mostly man-made (St. Paul was NOT Jesus) </p>
<p>&#8230;.AND there has been a long tradition of &#8220;new-age&#8221; Christianity&#8212;that is: reclaiming the message of love &amp; compassion rather than guilt and fear.  </p>
<p>My current favorites are the books of <a href="http://www.garyrenard.com/Preview.htm" rel="nofollow">Gary Renard</a> which are related to <a>ACIM</a> (an inspiring correction to Christianity) I also liked the large Jesus bio included in <a href="http://www.urantia.org/papers/paper188.html" rel="nofollow">Urantia</a></p>
<p>One of the leading Angel people is <a href="http://www.angeltherapy.com/" rel="nofollow">Doreen Virtue</a>, </p>
<p>I would also point-out that many of the &#8220;Magick&#8221; crowd (western inner tradition, OTO et al) also talk to angels using the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enochian" rel="nofollow">Enochian</a> system developed by Dr. Dee way back in 1500 &#8211;and those Magick-types are (ironically) mostly dismissive of anything too fluffy or &#8220;new-age&#8221;</p>
<p>In summary &#8212; I don&#8217;t buy the distortions of the man-made Church but trust that natural inner-knowing to which we all have access IF we can get the materialist ego-mind to quiet-down long enough to hear the higher voice. Angels don&#8217;t always answer with a voice.</p>
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		<title>By: heatlight</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/14/new-age-christianity/#comment-6639</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 20:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Never heard of him, honestly. Why?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never heard of him, honestly. Why?</p>
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		<title>By: Thinking Ape</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/14/new-age-christianity/#comment-6633</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 17:47:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Shannon says,
&lt;blockquote&gt;It seems to me that the popular understanding of Angels has for quite some time lent credibility to the New Age view&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Someone&#039;s been reading Harold Bloom, no?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shannon says,</p>
<blockquote><p>It seems to me that the popular understanding of Angels has for quite some time lent credibility to the New Age view</p></blockquote>
<p>Someone&#8217;s been reading Harold Bloom, no?</p>
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		<title>By: Shannon Lewis</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/14/new-age-christianity/#comment-6626</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 13:46:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It seems to me that the popular understanding of Angels has for quite some time lent credibility to the New Age view, as the Biblical picture of Angels is not one of cherubs with bows &amp; arrows, but of wild, powerful, multi-winged, warriors that are God&#039;s servants - far more powerful than humans, but not nearly as knowledgeable.  I think it sad, however, than ANY country would have an &#039;official&#039; religion - that&#039;s a problem waiting to happen.  I&#039;m all for the separation of Church &amp; State, first &amp; foremost for the sake of the church.  A sad story indeed, all the way around.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that the popular understanding of Angels has for quite some time lent credibility to the New Age view, as the Biblical picture of Angels is not one of cherubs with bows &amp; arrows, but of wild, powerful, multi-winged, warriors that are God&#8217;s servants &#8211; far more powerful than humans, but not nearly as knowledgeable.  I think it sad, however, than ANY country would have an &#8216;official&#8217; religion &#8211; that&#8217;s a problem waiting to happen.  I&#8217;m all for the separation of Church &amp; State, first &amp; foremost for the sake of the church.  A sad story indeed, all the way around.</p>
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		<title>By: Simen</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/14/new-age-christianity/#comment-6624</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 08:12:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tia: not at all. The post was about angels after all. It&#039;s just that a discussion sometimes takes a turn and ends up somewhere else from where it started. It&#039;s the way of the discussion. That doesn&#039;t mean you can&#039;t bring up the original topic.

HIS: sounds awful. I also think it&#039;s symptomatic of a wider human tendency: that of looking for meaning where none is. There really is no deeper meaning to such a tragic happening. You can see it other places too: for instance, in the tendency across cultures to personify nature, looking for intent when you don&#039;t get any fish or your crops are ruined.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tia: not at all. The post was about angels after all. It&#8217;s just that a discussion sometimes takes a turn and ends up somewhere else from where it started. It&#8217;s the way of the discussion. That doesn&#8217;t mean you can&#8217;t bring up the original topic.</p>
<p>HIS: sounds awful. I also think it&#8217;s symptomatic of a wider human tendency: that of looking for meaning where none is. There really is no deeper meaning to such a tragic happening. You can see it other places too: for instance, in the tendency across cultures to personify nature, looking for intent when you don&#8217;t get any fish or your crops are ruined.</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/14/new-age-christianity/#comment-6622</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 03:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[HIS:
&lt;i&gt;Attempts to sweeten these tragedies with angels and the like are just morbid fantasies. The really bother me.&lt;/i&gt;

My goodness, that&#039;s an awful tragedy. I&#039;m so sorry! They always say household accidents are responsible for a lot of deaths but that&#039;s the first time I&#039;ve heard of that freakish an accident.

I can relate to the sugar-coating of tragedy. I had an uncle who committed suicide. His funeral was a happy, happy, joyful celebration of his wonderful, marvelous life in Christ! Nothing wrong with remembering him, of course, but to totally ignore the tragic circumstances and not even grapple with what he may have been thinking or feeling  - and pretend all was hunky-dory - just felt so false and wrong.

I was wrestling with my faith at the time, and that was one of many big &quot;turnoff&quot; moments.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HIS:<br />
<i>Attempts to sweeten these tragedies with angels and the like are just morbid fantasies. The really bother me.</i></p>
<p>My goodness, that&#8217;s an awful tragedy. I&#8217;m so sorry! They always say household accidents are responsible for a lot of deaths but that&#8217;s the first time I&#8217;ve heard of that freakish an accident.</p>
<p>I can relate to the sugar-coating of tragedy. I had an uncle who committed suicide. His funeral was a happy, happy, joyful celebration of his wonderful, marvelous life in Christ! Nothing wrong with remembering him, of course, but to totally ignore the tragic circumstances and not even grapple with what he may have been thinking or feeling  &#8211; and pretend all was hunky-dory &#8211; just felt so false and wrong.</p>
<p>I was wrestling with my faith at the time, and that was one of many big &#8220;turnoff&#8221; moments.</p>
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		<title>By: HeIsSailing</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/14/new-age-christianity/#comment-6621</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tia sez:
&lt;blockquote&gt;Angels are one of my pet peeves. Or perhaps I should say that the misuse of the angel concept is a pet peeve. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

If I may share this quip from my life.  A few years ago, a niece of mine died.  Apparantly, she tripped while in the bathroom, and strangled herself on a cord that was used to hang dirty clothes.  She was 14 years old.  It was ghastly, and there is no nice way to say it.

But the obituary tried to.  Her obit stated that she was called home and carried away by the loving embrace of angels.  OK, I know her parents were greiving, but I could find no comfort in that at all.  Actually I found it horrific.  Angels did not carry her away with the brush of their wings into the busom of God.  No.  She strangled herself, and it was awful.

Attempts to sweeten these tragedies with angels and the like are just morbid fantasies.  The really bother me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tia sez:</p>
<blockquote><p>Angels are one of my pet peeves. Or perhaps I should say that the misuse of the angel concept is a pet peeve. </p></blockquote>
<p>If I may share this quip from my life.  A few years ago, a niece of mine died.  Apparantly, she tripped while in the bathroom, and strangled herself on a cord that was used to hang dirty clothes.  She was 14 years old.  It was ghastly, and there is no nice way to say it.</p>
<p>But the obituary tried to.  Her obit stated that she was called home and carried away by the loving embrace of angels.  OK, I know her parents were greiving, but I could find no comfort in that at all.  Actually I found it horrific.  Angels did not carry her away with the brush of their wings into the busom of God.  No.  She strangled herself, and it was awful.</p>
<p>Attempts to sweeten these tragedies with angels and the like are just morbid fantasies.  The really bother me.</p>
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		<title>By: HeIsSailing</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/14/new-age-christianity/#comment-6617</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Aug 2007 01:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Salahudin, 
That was a terrific article that you wrote over on your site.  How did you, a guy from Pakistan, dredge up those arcane laws from our state constitutions?  I would not have had a clue where to begin when researching an article like that!

And the laws that you found that are on the books are shocking indeed.  Well done!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salahudin,<br />
That was a terrific article that you wrote over on your site.  How did you, a guy from Pakistan, dredge up those arcane laws from our state constitutions?  I would not have had a clue where to begin when researching an article like that!</p>
<p>And the laws that you found that are on the books are shocking indeed.  Well done!!</p>
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