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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[funny how all the atheist read these articles]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>funny how all the atheist read these articles</p>
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		<title>By: cag</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/24/just-how-high-did-yhwh-fear-the-men-of-babel-would-build-their-tower/#comment-50523</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 03:41:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[#64, we do know where heaven is.  It is in your imagination.  Which is also where hell is.  By the way, god is also known by atheists as 404, because it is not found.  You can let your parents know that they succeeded in corrupting your mind with the biggest lie of all time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#64, we do know where heaven is.  It is in your imagination.  Which is also where hell is.  By the way, god is also known by atheists as 404, because it is not found.  You can let your parents know that they succeeded in corrupting your mind with the biggest lie of all time.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/24/just-how-high-did-yhwh-fear-the-men-of-babel-would-build-their-tower/#comment-50522</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Nov 2010 03:28:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[we point upwards because it is like saying God is above all of us, which He is. however, we do not know where heaven is because it is simply not in this &quot;realm&#039; so to speak. the Bible tells us there are two worlds the physical and the spiritual. we can only see the world in which we live in and thus don&#039;t know where heaven is. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we point upwards because it is like saying God is above all of us, which He is. however, we do not know where heaven is because it is simply not in this &#8220;realm&#8217; so to speak. the Bible tells us there are two worlds the physical and the spiritual. we can only see the world in which we live in and thus don&#8217;t know where heaven is. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: BigHouse</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/24/just-how-high-did-yhwh-fear-the-men-of-babel-would-build-their-tower/#comment-42083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BigHouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 13:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Crystalized, the first section of that link on &quot;Historians&quot; says it &quot;confirm(s) what the Bible says about Jesus&quot;  But they stop WELL short of confirming the supernatural nature ascribed to Jesus.  Is this really the best you have?  If so, it&#039;s unconvincing.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Crystalized, the first section of that link on &#8220;Historians&#8221; says it &#8220;confirm(s) what the Bible says about Jesus&#8221;  But they stop WELL short of confirming the supernatural nature ascribed to Jesus.  Is this really the best you have?  If so, it&#8217;s unconvincing.</p>
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		<title>By: crystalized</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/24/just-how-high-did-yhwh-fear-the-men-of-babel-would-build-their-tower/#comment-42055</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crystalized]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 02:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;Dating is important because a prophecy isn’t a prophecy if the prophecy was written after the event no?&quot;

I have no idea what you&#039;re talking about. What prophecy? Where? Specific example?

&quot;not oral stories that were handed down (and changed) from generation to generation.&quot;

This is a gigantic can of worms that&#039;s been opened, so I found a website to do it for me. 
http://www.everystudent.com/features/bible.html]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Dating is important because a prophecy isn’t a prophecy if the prophecy was written after the event no?&#8221;</p>
<p>I have no idea what you&#8217;re talking about. What prophecy? Where? Specific example?</p>
<p>&#8220;not oral stories that were handed down (and changed) from generation to generation.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is a gigantic can of worms that&#8217;s been opened, so I found a website to do it for me.<br />
<a href="http://www.everystudent.com/features/bible.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.everystudent.com/features/bible.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frreal</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/24/just-how-high-did-yhwh-fear-the-men-of-babel-would-build-their-tower/#comment-41905</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frreal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:54:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Also Crystal,

Be sure to check out the home page of that site.  It contains many of the books that weren&#039;t included in the Bible you read today as well as nonchristian writers such as Josephus and Papias that make references to historical events.  

Here also is the Old Testament section.  Dating is important because a prophecy isn&#039;t a prophecy if the prophecy was written after the event no?  Authorship is important because you want to make sure you are getting first hand information and not oral stories that were handed down (and changed) from generation to generation.  

 http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also Crystal,</p>
<p>Be sure to check out the home page of that site.  It contains many of the books that weren&#8217;t included in the Bible you read today as well as nonchristian writers such as Josephus and Papias that make references to historical events.  </p>
<p>Here also is the Old Testament section.  Dating is important because a prophecy isn&#8217;t a prophecy if the prophecy was written after the event no?  Authorship is important because you want to make sure you are getting first hand information and not oral stories that were handed down (and changed) from generation to generation.  </p>
<p> <a href="http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.earlyjewishwritings.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Frreal</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Frreal]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 14:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Umm no Crystal.

  The authors and dating of the gospels are highly contested.  Many scholars believe Mark was the first gospel written around 70 AD.  That is 70 years AFTER Christ.  That would mean the author would have written something 30+ years after the event in addition to the fact that the author would be rather aged.    The site below is an excellent resource for the various arguments concerning the dating and authorship of ALL the books of the old and new testament.   Perhaps some research is in order. 

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/mark.html

 I recall you said this earlier. 

&quot;Plenty of people call themselves “christians” but they don’t even know “why” they are christian or what they really believe in. They just follow along with whatever a priest or pastor tells them, but never bother to find out if the Bible says that or its just their particular sect that believes it.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Umm no Crystal.</p>
<p>  The authors and dating of the gospels are highly contested.  Many scholars believe Mark was the first gospel written around 70 AD.  That is 70 years AFTER Christ.  That would mean the author would have written something 30+ years after the event in addition to the fact that the author would be rather aged.    The site below is an excellent resource for the various arguments concerning the dating and authorship of ALL the books of the old and new testament.   Perhaps some research is in order. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/mark.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/mark.html</a></p>
<p> I recall you said this earlier. </p>
<p>&#8220;Plenty of people call themselves “christians” but they don’t even know “why” they are christian or what they really believe in. They just follow along with whatever a priest or pastor tells them, but never bother to find out if the Bible says that or its just their particular sect that believes it.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: crystalized</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crystalized]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Apr 2010 02:05:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@BigHouse

The first four chapters of the New Testaments are Christ&#039;s Words as reported from 4 different men, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

Four different people bore witness to Christ&#039;s words and actions and wrote them all down.
The Bible IS Christ&#039;s Words and God&#039;s Words because Christ followed God.

Jesus says nothing if you do not read his words in the Bible.
You would never find out what any ancient person said if you did not read their words.

That&#039;s like saying don&#039;t read &quot;The Apology&quot; because instead you should find out what Socrates said. How else are you going to find out what Socrates said in his speech during his trial. Plato was present at the trial and wrote it all down to preserve it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@BigHouse</p>
<p>The first four chapters of the New Testaments are Christ&#8217;s Words as reported from 4 different men, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.</p>
<p>Four different people bore witness to Christ&#8217;s words and actions and wrote them all down.<br />
The Bible IS Christ&#8217;s Words and God&#8217;s Words because Christ followed God.</p>
<p>Jesus says nothing if you do not read his words in the Bible.<br />
You would never find out what any ancient person said if you did not read their words.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s like saying don&#8217;t read &#8220;The Apology&#8221; because instead you should find out what Socrates said. How else are you going to find out what Socrates said in his speech during his trial. Plato was present at the trial and wrote it all down to preserve it.</p>
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		<title>By: BigHouse</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[BigHouse]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 21:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many churches today hardly follow Christ. They follow the traditions of the Bible, but they never bother to find out if what they are doing actually agrees with what Jesus says.

Plenty of people call themselves “christians” but they don’t even know “why” they are christian or what they really believe in. They just follow along with whatever the Bible tells them, but never bother to find out if Jesus says that or its just their particular sect that believes it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many churches today hardly follow Christ. They follow the traditions of the Bible, but they never bother to find out if what they are doing actually agrees with what Jesus says.</p>
<p>Plenty of people call themselves “christians” but they don’t even know “why” they are christian or what they really believe in. They just follow along with whatever the Bible tells them, but never bother to find out if Jesus says that or its just their particular sect that believes it.</p>
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		<title>By: crystalized</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2007/08/24/just-how-high-did-yhwh-fear-the-men-of-babel-would-build-their-tower/#comment-41857</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[crystalized]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Apr 2010 18:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many churches today hardly read the Bible. They follow the traditions of men, but they never bother to find out if what they are doing actually agrees with what the Bible says. 
Plenty of people call themselves &quot;christians&quot; but they don&#039;t even know &quot;why&quot; they are christian or what they really believe in. They just follow along with whatever a priest or pastor tells them, but never bother to find out if the Bible says that or its just their particular sect that believes it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many churches today hardly read the Bible. They follow the traditions of men, but they never bother to find out if what they are doing actually agrees with what the Bible says.<br />
Plenty of people call themselves &#8220;christians&#8221; but they don&#8217;t even know &#8220;why&#8221; they are christian or what they really believe in. They just follow along with whatever a priest or pastor tells them, but never bother to find out if the Bible says that or its just their particular sect that believes it.</p>
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