Comments on: What Is My Problem (with the church)?

By: Driving a Wedge « de-conversion

Driving a Wedge « de-conversion — Tue, 28 Aug 2007 15:34:45 +0000

[...] 28, 2007 Since I posted last time, a friend of mine has gotten “fired” from the church. Supposedly, it’s nothing [...]

By: tobeme

tobeme — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 18:24:06 +0000

I can fully appreciate your problem with structured religions. My question is why do you focus so much energy on that which is not you? Are you still trying to convince yourself? Is it time to move on to be who you believe you are and not give the church any more of your attention?

By: lostgirlfound

lostgirlfound — Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:27:58 +0000

Thanks, guys! Your comments have encouraged me, made me smile, and made me cry. Thanks for helping me hope again that there is something “real” in this world!

By: Dre

Dre — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 22:56:13 +0000

This was something I needed to read, mainly because I’ve been wondering why people act one way and say certain things in church and then they do the exact opposite once they walk off of the property every week, without fail. I doubt that anyone is perfect, but it would be nice to see some more of us striving to at least live according to our ideals at all times, no matter what they are, and not to just put on a show just because everyone else is doing it.

By: tribalchurch

tribalchurch — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 15:34:12 +0000

It’s very strange, how people act. Oddly, I’ve been asked this question (Why do you hate the church?), even though I’m a pastor! It’s just not the particular brand of Christianity that I grew up with, so it’s suspect.

It makes me wonder if people are more concerned with me agreeing with their particular way of thinking, rather than finding my own path.

I’m sorry if you lost a friend…. I lost a few from Bible school as well. It’s very painful when that happens.

By: HeIsSailing

HeIsSailing — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:54:54 +0000

sorry, the rare exception, not example. I really need to stop writing these things at 4AM

By: HeIsSailing

HeIsSailing — Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:54:08 +0000

lostgirlfound, I went through the same story that you did. I found that Christians follow Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount about as well as their non-believing heathen neighbors do. There is always the rare example, but in the end, we all act just like human beings. I see no divine power – I really don’t.

On the same note, I sympathise when your friends think you now ‘hate God’ or ‘hate the Church’. As I wrote about recently in ‘Rejecting the Obvious Truth of the Gospel’, CHristians seem to think that we are actively hating all things Christian, and that is just not the case. Most of my old CHristians friends never call or come over any more, and one even admitted that I was ‘hard to love’ these days. It is hard – they are good people and I miss the kommeraderiey. But there you go!

By: toobaa

toobaa — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:00:26 +0000

‘I try to consistently live my life so that my words at least live in the same neighborhood as my actions.’
Every member of any organised religion should be striving to achieve this. God gave us the capacities that we quite often ignore, and within the ‘bounds’ of religion as organised by man, we stifle our potential, our personalities, our ambition. It’s easy to make excuses for laziness that way. I’m a Muslim, I think you’re pondering and being sure about your path is something great and everybody should be this thorough in themselves and WHY they do whatever they do, and this is exactly what the scriptures ask of us. ‘Think! Ponder! Reflect! Don’t you see?’

I don’t think you have a problem. I think you have an advantage. And you’re doing well by sharing your thought process, perhaps others will benefit! : )

By: Reynvaan

Reynvaan — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:33:17 +0000

An excellent post. Know that you’re not alone out here.

P.S. I liked your reference to ‘The Matrix’.

By: robd

robd — Fri, 24 Aug 2007 20:19:44 +0000

Lovely post.

When I was a teenager, my parents were part of a modern protestant church allowing for modern life.
But some at school were from churches where television was sinful so strictly forbidden.
Then there were some who would allow tv, but you should not watch on sundays.
Others had the tv in a cupboard, and heavy curtains on the windows…
And all believed they were good Christians.

As soon as I was thinking about such subjects, I knew it didn,t make sense at all.