Comments on: Coming to Grips with Christian De-Conversion

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By: Cthulhu

Cthulhu — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 23:23:18 +0000

#31 astudent

I’m not a stereotype Christian at all. I can be just like you. How do you like it?

That’s funny – you sound like a whole bunch of ‘Christians’ I know. Arrogant and condescending to me. And as for your logic…please choose from the list at this link;

http://www.theskepticsguide.org/logicalfallacies.asp

By: Leslie

Leslie — Wed, 23 Apr 2008 21:23:29 +0000

I enjoyed your post. I spent my entire life being a Christian as well. I spent 10 years in a “christian cult” and it was that experience and the realization that not only was this cult abusive and manipulative but so was every church I had been in. This made me see organized religion for what it really is, a business.
I went a step further and spent much time researching and soul searching as to whether god himself actually exists or if he was a made up being like Zeus and Thor… Well the conclusion I came to was that god and the idea of a supreme being is completely false.
I know exactly what you mean by feeling a “vaccum” and I agree that it isn’t an absence of god but rather a void of activities and relationships that were once a primary focus. I think that my greatest struggle was anger with myself at being duped as well
as a saddness for so much lost time.
I really appreciate your addressing thia as I too have noticed how
little material there is on this subject.

By: LeoPardus

LeoPardus — Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:41:03 +0000

Just looking at astudent’s accustaion that HIS was never a Christian. That being made obvious by the fact that HIS left the Faith. ..BUT.. What if HIS should return to the Faith and show that he was truly back and truly believing, and give a beautiful testimony of God’s grace in bringing him back into the fold?
Of course the obvious response would be “HIS never really left the faith”

Gawd, doncha luuuuv circular logic?

By: mewho

mewho — Thu, 20 Sep 2007 16:06:50 +0000

What a great discussion! I love the information age and I think we all should. These discussions would have gotten us tortured, imprisoned and/or killed during the Inquisition. Torture was used after 1252 when Pope Innocent IV authorized the use of torture for those who didn’t accept the official teachings of the Roman Catholic Church. Go to YOUTUBE and type “church inquisition”. You’ll really appreciate the 21st century.

By: Mike

Mike — Wed, 19 Sep 2007 22:01:36 +0000

HIS,

Just wanted to say how much I appreciated this article of yours. It’s well written and moving. The loss, the uncertainty, the new vistas opening before one are all in there, and I do so identify with them. Thank you.

By: StaCeY

StaCeY — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:46:53 +0000

Also check out our community site & forum:

http://www.de-conversion.org/forum/index.php

Paul

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ok… so I see the forum is labeled…
“a community for religious apostates”

That would in fact be me I guess.
However I am in NO WAY an athiest
(if by “theism” we mean an intimate God)…

So I don’t know if my honest thoughts…
will just serve to become a nusiance
for the vast majority in the forum.

While I myself am not out to “re-vert” anyone to the heart of God… I speak very openly of my love and interaction with Him/Her… and also the supernatural freedom I find in Y’shua’s teachings/life story.

I want to be a friend to each of you. Not an annoyance.
know what I mean? I’m really not so sure I belong in your forum. What do you think?

Stacey.

By: StaCeY

StaCeY — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:27:14 +0000

(what I meant was… to judge your “pew” experience… just because you are there… gaining something personal from the experience of being there… would be superstitious and silly)

While I dislike institutional churches by their very nature…
I TRY not to make generalizations about the people who visit them. people “go to church” for all kinds of reasons. This is just one more example of how it is important that we GET TO KNOW ONE ANOTHER personally… instead of simply making assumptions based on appearances and labels.

By: StaCeY

StaCeY — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:15:57 +0000

HISailing…

My thing in life now is creative spontenaity.

The structured ritual of the RC church…
was both the source of my comfort and my fear…
for 10 years.
(Quite the antithesis of “creative spontenaity”).

I took the whole thing very seriously though…
as I was seeking supernatural enlightenment there….
in the church’s teachings, doctrines, sacraments…
and you obviously are not.

What I found eventually was just a cyclical merry-go-round
that was making me ill. There was no relief until I just jumped off. I sat in the pews as an observer there for many months afterwards (after “leaving” the church)… as I continued on there as the paid pianist… until everything there that I had once seen as beautiful and true… sat before me… counterfiet… and controling… and downright bizarre.

It was interesting though for that last season…
as a detatched observer.
God spoke volumes and volumes to me there…
more then He ever had before when I had been a member.

Funny… I didn’t actually enter into the supernatural life with God…
until I was finally willing to ditch “church” and “doctrine” there at the end of my “religion” road.

HIS….
If God is speking to you in those pews…
by all means … sit there…
or if it is a place of self discovery for you…
why not?! It is the in-doctrination that form-u-lates your life for you… that threatens to steal your freedom and individuality, not the simple act of sitting in the pews for the “sensory” experience of it all.

Superstition can take many forms.

Just my 2 cents.

By: The de-Convert

The de-Convert — Mon, 10 Sep 2007 05:14:36 +0000

Also check out our community site & forum:

http://www.de-conversion.org/forum/index.php

Paul