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	<title>Comments on: The Myth of Judeo-Christian America</title>
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		<title>By: Ubi Dubium</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/12/the-myth-of-judeo-christian-america/#comment-52852</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ubi Dubium]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 15:30:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@Truth Seeker
No, no, no, no, that&#039;s Gnosticism, an early sect of xianity that was stomped out by the Roman sect of early xianity in their early political squabbles.  The Gnostics looked at the mess the world was in, and how much of a tyrannical bully the god of the OT was, and decided that Jesus must have been talking about some other higher god, not the OT creator/mountain/war god.  Believing that the world is evil because it was created by a lesser and malevolent god, and that we need salvation from him, actually makes more sense than the current beliefs of modern xians.  Not that any of it makes sense, really.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Truth Seeker<br />
No, no, no, no, that&#8217;s Gnosticism, an early sect of xianity that was stomped out by the Roman sect of early xianity in their early political squabbles.  The Gnostics looked at the mess the world was in, and how much of a tyrannical bully the god of the OT was, and decided that Jesus must have been talking about some other higher god, not the OT creator/mountain/war god.  Believing that the world is evil because it was created by a lesser and malevolent god, and that we need salvation from him, actually makes more sense than the current beliefs of modern xians.  Not that any of it makes sense, really.</p>
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		<title>By: Truth seeker</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/12/the-myth-of-judeo-christian-america/#comment-52848</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Truth seeker]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jan 2012 04:05:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Jesus told the truth about &quot;Jews&quot; (sodomites) and the Synagogue of Satan. There is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. Satan to Christians is god to the Jews. Satan to the Jews is god to the rest of humanity. PERIOD.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jesus told the truth about &#8220;Jews&#8221; (sodomites) and the Synagogue of Satan. There is no such thing as Judeo-Christianity. Satan to Christians is god to the Jews. Satan to the Jews is god to the rest of humanity. PERIOD.</p>
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		<title>By: hypocritical4u</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/12/the-myth-of-judeo-christian-america/#comment-38620</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[hypocritical4u]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Discourse requires subjectivity acknowledging itself as such, rather than as something more.  I recommend the following post: http://deligentia.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/objective-vs-subjective-a-matter-of-biblical-hyperbole/]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discourse requires subjectivity acknowledging itself as such, rather than as something more.  I recommend the following post: <a href="http://deligentia.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/objective-vs-subjective-a-matter-of-biblical-hyperbole/" rel="nofollow">http://deligentia.wordpress.com/2009/11/03/objective-vs-subjective-a-matter-of-biblical-hyperbole/</a></p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/12/the-myth-of-judeo-christian-america/#comment-14802</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Geez, HIS, tell us what you &lt;b&gt;really&lt;/b&gt; think about the book! ROTFLMAO!! 

That is a great review. I have absolutely no doubt I would feel the same way about this book, because the whole postmodern vibe is maddening to me in the same way Blue Like Jazz was maddening to you. I will not bother to read it, thanks for saving me the nausea.

Another author that gets lumped in with this one is Anne Lamott. I liked some of her novels and memoirs, but when I&#039;ve read her spiritual stuff it is like so much sticky, icky cotton candy. It&#039;s pretty and fluffy and pink, but when you consume it, it melts away and there&#039;s really nothing at all there, which pissed me off after I spent the time to read it!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Geez, HIS, tell us what you <b>really</b> think about the book! ROTFLMAO!! </p>
<p>That is a great review. I have absolutely no doubt I would feel the same way about this book, because the whole postmodern vibe is maddening to me in the same way Blue Like Jazz was maddening to you. I will not bother to read it, thanks for saving me the nausea.</p>
<p>Another author that gets lumped in with this one is Anne Lamott. I liked some of her novels and memoirs, but when I&#8217;ve read her spiritual stuff it is like so much sticky, icky cotton candy. It&#8217;s pretty and fluffy and pink, but when you consume it, it melts away and there&#8217;s really nothing at all there, which pissed me off after I spent the time to read it!</p>
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		<title>By: HeIsSailing</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/12/the-myth-of-judeo-christian-america/#comment-14799</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HeIsSailing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 00:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Karen, here you go:
http://de-conversion.org/news.php?readmore=4

I read BlueLikeJazz as a doubting Christian who was searching for some answers.  My pastor recommended this book.  I guess my reaction in the book review shows the frustration I had with my pastor.  I figured if that fluff was the best he had to offer me, I was pretty much done for as a Christian.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Karen, here you go:<br />
<a href="http://de-conversion.org/news.php?readmore=4" rel="nofollow">http://de-conversion.org/news.php?readmore=4</a></p>
<p>I read BlueLikeJazz as a doubting Christian who was searching for some answers.  My pastor recommended this book.  I guess my reaction in the book review shows the frustration I had with my pastor.  I figured if that fluff was the best he had to offer me, I was pretty much done for as a Christian.</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/12/the-myth-of-judeo-christian-america/#comment-14781</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 18:32:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;Blue Like Jazz had to be the most insulting and asinine book I think I have ever read. Seriously. &lt;/i&gt;

Really!?! Wow, that fascinates me. 

I often converse with liberal and postmodern &quot;emergent&quot; Christians, and they rave on and on about that book like it&#039;s secondary only to the bible. 

HIS, have you got a link to the review that you mentioned? I&#039;d love to hear a different viewpoint on that book.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Blue Like Jazz had to be the most insulting and asinine book I think I have ever read. Seriously. </i></p>
<p>Really!?! Wow, that fascinates me. </p>
<p>I often converse with liberal and postmodern &#8220;emergent&#8221; Christians, and they rave on and on about that book like it&#8217;s secondary only to the bible. </p>
<p>HIS, have you got a link to the review that you mentioned? I&#8217;d love to hear a different viewpoint on that book.</p>
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		<title>By: HeIsSailing</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/12/the-myth-of-judeo-christian-america/#comment-14765</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HeIsSailing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:08:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[marie clarifies:
&lt;blockquote&gt;oh yeah and if anyone unfortunately read “Blue like Jazz,” this is the “swearing preacher” or whatever the author called him in the book. &lt;/blockquote&gt;

No way!!  Thanks for pointing that out.  Blue Like Jazz had to be the most insulting and asinine book I think I have ever read.  Seriously.  I have a book review of that thing somewhere on the Internet.  Is this the way Mark Driscoll preaches to his congregation every week?  I think we are seeing the reincarnation of Sam Kinnison here.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>marie clarifies:</p>
<blockquote><p>oh yeah and if anyone unfortunately read “Blue like Jazz,” this is the “swearing preacher” or whatever the author called him in the book. </p></blockquote>
<p>No way!!  Thanks for pointing that out.  Blue Like Jazz had to be the most insulting and asinine book I think I have ever read.  Seriously.  I have a book review of that thing somewhere on the Internet.  Is this the way Mark Driscoll preaches to his congregation every week?  I think we are seeing the reincarnation of Sam Kinnison here.</p>
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		<title>By: HeIsSailing</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/12/the-myth-of-judeo-christian-america/#comment-14764</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[HeIsSailing]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 11:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[JK says:
&lt;blockquote&gt;...“as one” with the Jewish people...&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I have always wondered what the Jewish community thinks of this kind of talk from John Hagee type Christians.  If I were Jewish (and I don&#039;t know any), based on the history of Christian/Jewish relations, I would not trust Christians as far as I could throw them.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JK says:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;“as one” with the Jewish people&#8230;</p></blockquote>
<p>I have always wondered what the Jewish community thinks of this kind of talk from John Hagee type Christians.  If I were Jewish (and I don&#8217;t know any), based on the history of Christian/Jewish relations, I would not trust Christians as far as I could throw them.</p>
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		<title>By: JK</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/12/the-myth-of-judeo-christian-america/#comment-14760</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[JK]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 08:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I was always uncomfortable at our former church when they talked about being &quot;as one&quot; with the Jewish people,,, there were definite elements of we love you, we respect you, you are the original, and now come see the truth and be REAL Jews -- for Jesus!  It was also like hedging the bet -- see God, we&#039;re good Christians AND Jews... sheesh....]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was always uncomfortable at our former church when they talked about being &#8220;as one&#8221; with the Jewish people,,, there were definite elements of we love you, we respect you, you are the original, and now come see the truth and be REAL Jews &#8212; for Jesus!  It was also like hedging the bet &#8212; see God, we&#8217;re good Christians AND Jews&#8230; sheesh&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: karen</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/12/the-myth-of-judeo-christian-america/#comment-14657</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[karen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Jan 2008 18:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;This guy is seriously the most egotistical guy I’ve seen preach in person. Dig around the internet for stuff on him, and you will see there has been a ton of controversy surrounding his narrow theology.&lt;/i&gt;

A year or so ago this guy got into a huge controversy with his remarks about women. He&#039;s seriously misogynistic and disgusting. That he is a hero of the young Christian movement seriously disturbs me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>This guy is seriously the most egotistical guy I’ve seen preach in person. Dig around the internet for stuff on him, and you will see there has been a ton of controversy surrounding his narrow theology.</i></p>
<p>A year or so ago this guy got into a huge controversy with his remarks about women. He&#8217;s seriously misogynistic and disgusting. That he is a hero of the young Christian movement seriously disturbs me.</p>
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