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		<title>By: cag</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Kyle, god is in fact unchanging. Ever since some human came up with the concept of god, god has been imaginary, god remains imaginary and god will be imaginary in the future. No change there.

Your mention of Africa and the catholics immediately brought up the image of a smarmy individual in a dog collar asking a little girl if she would like some candy. Creepy. Catholics do not practice charity, they practice coercion.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle, god is in fact unchanging. Ever since some human came up with the concept of god, god has been imaginary, god remains imaginary and god will be imaginary in the future. No change there.</p>
<p>Your mention of Africa and the catholics immediately brought up the image of a smarmy individual in a dog collar asking a little girl if she would like some candy. Creepy. Catholics do not practice charity, they practice coercion.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 21:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[However one thing interesting is that despite all this the cathaholics are the ones that feed the most to poor children especially in places like Africa.

We have donated school material to a certain person in Africa to help them thru school as the source is trusted and the person benefited.  

However the root of the problems there is the corrupt government in Africa that only care about themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>However one thing interesting is that despite all this the cathaholics are the ones that feed the most to poor children especially in places like Africa.</p>
<p>We have donated school material to a certain person in Africa to help them thru school as the source is trusted and the person benefited.  </p>
<p>However the root of the problems there is the corrupt government in Africa that only care about themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 21:10:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For me number 4 is the biggest grip I have about God.

All around me Christians say he never changes yet I see nothing BUT change.    In fact when I point out that God almost sent plagues if he can&#039;t find any person who hasn&#039;t sinned in which God decided to hold back I get brushed aside and totally ignored.

Talk about ignorant!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For me number 4 is the biggest grip I have about God.</p>
<p>All around me Christians say he never changes yet I see nothing BUT change.    In fact when I point out that God almost sent plagues if he can&#8217;t find any person who hasn&#8217;t sinned in which God decided to hold back I get brushed aside and totally ignored.</p>
<p>Talk about ignorant!</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 21:06:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[By the way other then those issues I applaud you for coming forward with enough maturity to not get into the *blame game* or name calling. 

I hope I am not too late for this due to my bad luck timing curse but I want to point this person&#039;s post out. 


This person&#039;s post below proves points #1 and #2 of you&#039;re own posts:   

    173. Anonymous  &#124;  December 29, 2012 at 3:17 pm

    1. your right, the trinity is not in the bible. but true fact is god is three in such as water, ice and steam.
    the bile does talk about the father the son and the holy spirit as one.
    2. We are in christ hands when we believe in him we have internal life. Christian who believe in the true word of god. it does matter what any one has said. christ is the truth and the way.
    3.The stories you hear are in the old testiment, when god made this thing, happen whe he spoke to true believers and talking of animals all done for gods glory.
    4.God is not unchanging he is the same always.
    if bad things didnt happen, how could we see the good of god.
    he is unchanging your father gets angry etc. but still love you cares for you etc. he doesnt make bad things happen it is the people who are not good hearted.
    5.the lake of fire. it is real no need to explain it is in the bible old and new testiment.
    6.people who are not really inform , people who want their own power.
    7.Jews are still wainting for the messiah and there are jews, who know that the messiah is jesus christ send by god to be our savior.
    don’t miss the boat that god has sent.
    8. God is as reall as the wind that blows, we cannot see it but the affect. want a wonderful world he has made, it is the wicked heart of people who destroy it. he has given us. free choice.
    what will yours be?

    174. cag  &#124;  December 29, 2012 at 6:22 pm

    Anon #173, please proof read your fiction before posting. I must admit that “bile” comes close to the truth. Being in the bible is not the same as being true. If it was, the earth would be the centre of the universe, an obvious falsehood.

    Please provide evidence for this Jesus character. Being in the bible that claims that the earth was bathed in light before the sun was created(Genesis1:3-5) does not constitute proof.

        4.God is not unchanging he is the same always.

    What does that mean? That which is the same always is the same as unchanging. You may want to rethink that.

    A parent who deliberately made bad things happen when they had the power to avoid the bad would not be considered a good parent. What lesson is learned by millions of children starving to death every year?

    The lake of fire is just another bit of fiction in a book of fiction. Nothing frightening there.

    You provide assertions, not evidence. Your assertions are ridiculous to anyone not poisoned by superstitious beliefs.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By the way other then those issues I applaud you for coming forward with enough maturity to not get into the *blame game* or name calling. </p>
<p>I hope I am not too late for this due to my bad luck timing curse but I want to point this person&#8217;s post out. </p>
<p>This person&#8217;s post below proves points #1 and #2 of you&#8217;re own posts:   </p>
<p>    173. Anonymous  |  December 29, 2012 at 3:17 pm</p>
<p>    1. your right, the trinity is not in the bible. but true fact is god is three in such as water, ice and steam.<br />
    the bile does talk about the father the son and the holy spirit as one.<br />
    2. We are in christ hands when we believe in him we have internal life. Christian who believe in the true word of god. it does matter what any one has said. christ is the truth and the way.<br />
    3.The stories you hear are in the old testiment, when god made this thing, happen whe he spoke to true believers and talking of animals all done for gods glory.<br />
    4.God is not unchanging he is the same always.<br />
    if bad things didnt happen, how could we see the good of god.<br />
    he is unchanging your father gets angry etc. but still love you cares for you etc. he doesnt make bad things happen it is the people who are not good hearted.<br />
    5.the lake of fire. it is real no need to explain it is in the bible old and new testiment.<br />
    6.people who are not really inform , people who want their own power.<br />
    7.Jews are still wainting for the messiah and there are jews, who know that the messiah is jesus christ send by god to be our savior.<br />
    don’t miss the boat that god has sent.<br />
    8. God is as reall as the wind that blows, we cannot see it but the affect. want a wonderful world he has made, it is the wicked heart of people who destroy it. he has given us. free choice.<br />
    what will yours be?</p>
<p>    174. cag  |  December 29, 2012 at 6:22 pm</p>
<p>    Anon #173, please proof read your fiction before posting. I must admit that “bile” comes close to the truth. Being in the bible is not the same as being true. If it was, the earth would be the centre of the universe, an obvious falsehood.</p>
<p>    Please provide evidence for this Jesus character. Being in the bible that claims that the earth was bathed in light before the sun was created(Genesis1:3-5) does not constitute proof.</p>
<p>        4.God is not unchanging he is the same always.</p>
<p>    What does that mean? That which is the same always is the same as unchanging. You may want to rethink that.</p>
<p>    A parent who deliberately made bad things happen when they had the power to avoid the bad would not be considered a good parent. What lesson is learned by millions of children starving to death every year?</p>
<p>    The lake of fire is just another bit of fiction in a book of fiction. Nothing frightening there.</p>
<p>    You provide assertions, not evidence. Your assertions are ridiculous to anyone not poisoned by superstitious beliefs.</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 16 May 2013 21:01:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The biggest flaw to Christianity is you have to just *Believe* which sounds almost like the Obama&#039;s *Hope and Change* except backwards. 

The real belief is that we live in a world of polar opposites and it&#039;s up to US to make the boundaries so we won&#039;t cross into each others paths. 



There is a HUGE difference between preaching and expressing you&#039;re faith so I DO respect Christians who are mature because the media refuses to acknowledge the ones that do good deeds.

The media is only interested in showing the violent side so if you are basing you&#039;re ideas off of what the media says then you have already been hoodwinked!  




I don&#039;t believe in Christianity but not because of what the media or schools tell me but what I learn in life.    I don&#039;t follow societies agendas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The biggest flaw to Christianity is you have to just *Believe* which sounds almost like the Obama&#8217;s *Hope and Change* except backwards. </p>
<p>The real belief is that we live in a world of polar opposites and it&#8217;s up to US to make the boundaries so we won&#8217;t cross into each others paths. </p>
<p>There is a HUGE difference between preaching and expressing you&#8217;re faith so I DO respect Christians who are mature because the media refuses to acknowledge the ones that do good deeds.</p>
<p>The media is only interested in showing the violent side so if you are basing you&#8217;re ideas off of what the media says then you have already been hoodwinked!  </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t believe in Christianity but not because of what the media or schools tell me but what I learn in life.    I don&#8217;t follow societies agendas.</p>
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		<title>By: cag</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 22:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Anon #173, please proof read your fiction before posting. I must admit that &quot;bile&quot; comes close to the truth. Being in the bible is not the same as being true. If it was, the earth would be the centre of the universe, an obvious falsehood. 

Please provide evidence for this Jesus character. Being in the bible that claims that the earth was bathed in light before the sun was created(Genesis1:3-5) does not constitute proof.&lt;blockquote&gt;4.God is not unchanging he is the same always.&lt;/blockquote&gt;What does that mean? That which is the same always is the same as unchanging. You may want to rethink that. 

A parent who deliberately made bad things happen when they had the power to avoid the bad would not be considered a good parent. What lesson is learned by millions of children starving to death every year?

The lake of fire is just another bit of fiction in a book of fiction. Nothing frightening there.

You provide assertions, not evidence. Your assertions are ridiculous to anyone not poisoned by superstitious beliefs.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anon #173, please proof read your fiction before posting. I must admit that &#8220;bile&#8221; comes close to the truth. Being in the bible is not the same as being true. If it was, the earth would be the centre of the universe, an obvious falsehood. </p>
<p>Please provide evidence for this Jesus character. Being in the bible that claims that the earth was bathed in light before the sun was created(Genesis1:3-5) does not constitute proof.<br />
<blockquote>4.God is not unchanging he is the same always.</p></blockquote>
<p>What does that mean? That which is the same always is the same as unchanging. You may want to rethink that. </p>
<p>A parent who deliberately made bad things happen when they had the power to avoid the bad would not be considered a good parent. What lesson is learned by millions of children starving to death every year?</p>
<p>The lake of fire is just another bit of fiction in a book of fiction. Nothing frightening there.</p>
<p>You provide assertions, not evidence. Your assertions are ridiculous to anyone not poisoned by superstitious beliefs.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 19:17:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[1. your right, the trinity is not in the bible. but true fact is god is three in such as water, ice and steam.
the bile does talk about the father the son and the holy spirit as one.
2. We are in christ hands when we believe in him we have internal life.  Christian who believe in the true word of god. it does matter what any one has said. christ is the truth and the way.
3.The stories you hear are in the old testiment, when god made this thing, happen whe he spoke to true believers and talking of animals all done for gods glory.
4.God is not unchanging he is the same always.
 if bad things didnt happen, how could we see the good of god.
he is unchanging your father gets  angry etc. but still love you cares for you etc.  he doesnt make bad things happen it is the people who are not good hearted.
5.the lake of fire. it is real no need to explain it is in the bible old and new testiment.
6.people who are not really inform , people who want their own power.
7.Jews are still wainting for the messiah and there are jews, who know that the messiah is jesus christ send by god to be our savior.
don&#039;t miss the boat that god has sent.
8. God is as reall as the wind that blows, we cannot see it but the affect. want a wonderful world he has made, it is the wicked heart of people who destroy it. he has given us. free choice.
what will yours be?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. your right, the trinity is not in the bible. but true fact is god is three in such as water, ice and steam.<br />
the bile does talk about the father the son and the holy spirit as one.<br />
2. We are in christ hands when we believe in him we have internal life.  Christian who believe in the true word of god. it does matter what any one has said. christ is the truth and the way.<br />
3.The stories you hear are in the old testiment, when god made this thing, happen whe he spoke to true believers and talking of animals all done for gods glory.<br />
4.God is not unchanging he is the same always.<br />
 if bad things didnt happen, how could we see the good of god.<br />
he is unchanging your father gets  angry etc. but still love you cares for you etc.  he doesnt make bad things happen it is the people who are not good hearted.<br />
5.the lake of fire. it is real no need to explain it is in the bible old and new testiment.<br />
6.people who are not really inform , people who want their own power.<br />
7.Jews are still wainting for the messiah and there are jews, who know that the messiah is jesus christ send by god to be our savior.<br />
don&#8217;t miss the boat that god has sent.<br />
8. God is as reall as the wind that blows, we cannot see it but the affect. want a wonderful world he has made, it is the wicked heart of people who destroy it. he has given us. free choice.<br />
what will yours be?</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[&quot;try to reject it or sale it and you have not felt God&#039;s wreath . . .&quot;
God&#039;s wreath?  What kind of wreath is that?  Like a Christmas wreath?  Oh, that could be kind of prickly.  I&#039;m so afraid.

Timex, I really think that you need to spend some time with a dictionary or a thesaurus.  There is a big difference between &quot;wreath&quot; and &quot;wrath&quot;.  I presume you meant the latter.  However, I am puzzled by &quot;sale it&quot;.  &quot;Sale&quot; is past tense of &quot;sell.&quot;  Yeah, yeah, I know, minor distinctions.  But if you can hair-split Bible verses to suit your message, then you can understand why the rest of us hair-split over grammar and spelling.  Because it really does change the whole intent of your meaning if you carelessly use the wrong word.  

Personally, I am not impressed with appeals to religion that are misspelled and incoherent.  I don&#039;t find it attractive.  It is saying by example that God can only be honored by throwing one&#039;s brains and education out the window.  THAT I REFUSE TO DO!!!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;try to reject it or sale it and you have not felt God&#8217;s wreath . . .&#8221;<br />
God&#8217;s wreath?  What kind of wreath is that?  Like a Christmas wreath?  Oh, that could be kind of prickly.  I&#8217;m so afraid.</p>
<p>Timex, I really think that you need to spend some time with a dictionary or a thesaurus.  There is a big difference between &#8220;wreath&#8221; and &#8220;wrath&#8221;.  I presume you meant the latter.  However, I am puzzled by &#8220;sale it&#8221;.  &#8220;Sale&#8221; is past tense of &#8220;sell.&#8221;  Yeah, yeah, I know, minor distinctions.  But if you can hair-split Bible verses to suit your message, then you can understand why the rest of us hair-split over grammar and spelling.  Because it really does change the whole intent of your meaning if you carelessly use the wrong word.  </p>
<p>Personally, I am not impressed with appeals to religion that are misspelled and incoherent.  I don&#8217;t find it attractive.  It is saying by example that God can only be honored by throwing one&#8217;s brains and education out the window.  THAT I REFUSE TO DO!!!</p>
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		<title>By: cag</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 19:14:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Timex #171 - &quot;In the beginning god created the heaven and the earth.&quot;  The implication of this is that the earth is the centre of the universe.  Educated people know this to be false.  From your screed, it appears that you actually believe the bible and therefore the geocentric universe.  If so, please explain how geostationary satellites work.  How do they stay in place?  How far away are the stars that they manage to revolve around the earth on a daily basis? 

When reality conflicts with the bible, reality wins.  Quoting scripture to people who know that the bible is a collection of fallacies and myths (that is, the bible is all bullshit) is totally unconvincing.  

Go spread your lies where the readers still haven&#039;t recovered from the lies they were told as believing children.  The rest of us no longer believe in the demonstrably false.

Grow up.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Timex #171 &#8211; &#8220;In the beginning god created the heaven and the earth.&#8221;  The implication of this is that the earth is the centre of the universe.  Educated people know this to be false.  From your screed, it appears that you actually believe the bible and therefore the geocentric universe.  If so, please explain how geostationary satellites work.  How do they stay in place?  How far away are the stars that they manage to revolve around the earth on a daily basis? </p>
<p>When reality conflicts with the bible, reality wins.  Quoting scripture to people who know that the bible is a collection of fallacies and myths (that is, the bible is all bullshit) is totally unconvincing.  </p>
<p>Go spread your lies where the readers still haven&#8217;t recovered from the lies they were told as believing children.  The rest of us no longer believe in the demonstrably false.</p>
<p>Grow up.</p>
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		<title>By: Timex</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 08:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Yes I listen, and do as I hear
 
 
Please look over this whole message, so that you can answer these points of truth, and tell what your findings are.

The sabbath = Jesus = the word (Holy Bible) = 7 Days a week = KEEPING THE SABATH = in everything you do:                                
 
(Mark) (02:27-28) Christ is the Sabbath.  Jesus said unto them, The Sabbath (Jesus) was made for man, and NOT man for the Sabbath (Jesus). Therefore the son (Jesus) is Lord of the Sabbath.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                

(St. Luke) (06:05)  And he (Jesus) said unto them (You), that the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath.

(St. John) (05:17) But Jesus answered them (You), My Father (God) worketh hither to, and I work. (7) Seven days a week.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOUSELF: Please read all of this to see my understanding.

This ONLY MEANS to show the truth of chousing life. For if they won&#039;t accept it, then they ARE NOT YOUR BROTHERT OR SISTER, and we are to dust our feet off, and have NOTHING to do with them.  We are NOT to pay their way in to more sin, for Christ said you are a partaker in their deeds. If they accept Christ, and walk his way, then by all means get them a new car, sign for a bank loan, goto the store for them, baby sit, that kind of thing, and be a true friend, one who lays his life down for another brother. You all need to understand, Christ said your eather for him, or against him, NO middle ground. 

 

Now I have a QUESTION:  How is it that I see &quot;Saint Paul&quot; as the writing on the wall?, The written word of a False Prophet?

For below is what has been given to me, and it has to be Christ, or God.  All this is in your KJV Bible.

 

My understanding of Paul, from what Paul himself has shown, and said, and NOT out of CONTEXT: 

 About   Lies        ______________________________________________

(Revelation) (21:08) No LIE is of the truth, ALL will be in the lake of fire.

 

(1st John) (02:21) I have not written unto you because ye (you) know not the truth, but because ye (you) know it, and that NO LIE is of the truth.

       

________Paul says women are obedient if they don&#039;t speak in church: ________                                         

 

(1st Corinthians)  (14:34) let your women keep silence in the churches for it is not permitted unto them to speak.

 

Answer: Christ said way shoulden women teach, for they raise our chrildren.

  

______You reject Christ by doing what Paul says even when Paul is shown for what he is:____

 

(John) (05:43) I (Jesus) come in my father&#039;s name, and ye (You) receive me 

not: If another shall come in his own name (Saint Paul) him ye will receive.

 

Answer: Paul speaks to different, for it to have been Jesus, or God.

 

_____________________________Paul makes up the truth__________________________________                               

 

(Acts) (09:03-07)

 

3) And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: 

 

  4 he fell down, no one else did:

 

4) and he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutes thou me? 

 

5) And he said, who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecute: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. 

 

 6   This is the lie about when paul was told what he was to do: (go into the city)

 

6) And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him (Paul), Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.

 

  7 was one of the lies: (heard something, seen nothing):

 

7) And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man

 

 

 

(Acts) (22:06-10)

 

6) And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me. 

 

  7 is one of the lies:

 

7) And I fell onto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutes thou me? 

 

8) And I answered, who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecute.

 

  9 is one of the lies   (seen something, heard nothing)

 

9) And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. 

 

 

(Acts) (26:12-14)

 

12) Whereupon as I went to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests, 

 

13) At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me. 

 

14 is one of the lies:( they all fell down this time, and only paul heard anything:

 

14) And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto

 

 

below is what paul was told while still in the desert, not in the city;

 

 (Acts)(26:15) to (Acts) (26:18) Paul is told what to do see above (09:06)

 

 

 

ANSWER:  3 different accounts of the same context all 3 from one day, and one meating from christ so paul says.

 

1) Paul is a lie at it&#039;s core or his words are not his anymore, meaning not to be spoken or trusted he speaks with Guile.

 

(Guile)&quot; is twice the translation of (mirmah) (deceit) (fraud)

 

2) He lied about who heard anything.

 

3) He lied about who saw anything.

 

4) He lied about who fell down.

 

5) He lied about where, and when he was told what he was to do.

 

 

 

 __Paul says to get in the face of anyone who is wrong before god:

 

(Galatians)  (02:11) But when Peter was come to Antioch, I (Paul) withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.

 

Answer: Christ said remove the log from your own eye, then you can see to remove it from anothers eye. I say Paul judges others, then by his words, we judge him looking for blame.

 

 

 

_Not under the LAW Paul said, how about reading below. Paul Double Talks:

 

(Galatians)(05:02-04)Indeed I, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by the law; you have fallen from grace. 

 

 

Here he even drops his own name before telling the Galatians a severe doctrinal-lie. 

 

 

Below Paul says the law, and commandments are holy, just and good:

 

(Romans) (07:09-12) for I (Paul) was alive without the law once, but when the commandment came.  Sin revived and I (Paul) died (in the spirit), and the commandment, which was ORDAINED to life, I (Paul) found to be unto death.  For sin, taking OCCASION by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandments holy, and just, and good.    

 

 

Answer:  Paul knows the difference between the commandments and the 300 plus man made laws. he says your saved by grace, not of  works, nor the  law to the point you&#039;ve fell from grace. Then he says the commandments, and the Laws (300) are Holy, Good, and Just.   

 

Pauls teachings are the &quot;Tear&quot; from the &quot;Wheat&quot; , and the &quot;False Doctrine&quot;

which Christ warned us about.                                                     


 

____________The truth to keeping the commandments___________________________________

 

 

(Matthew) (22:36-40) &quot;Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?&quot; Jesus said to him, &quot;You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind&quot; This is the first and the great commandment.  And the second is like it: &quot;You shall love your neighbor as yourself&quot;

 

(St.John)  (02:04) He (You) that saith, I know him (Jesus Christ), and keepeth NOT his (Gods) commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is not in him.


 

(St.John)  (14:15) If Ye (You) love me (Jesus), Keep my commandments.

 

(Matthew) (05:18-19) For verily I (Jesus)  say unto you, till heaven, and earth pass, NOT one jot or one tittle shall in NO WISE pass from the law till all be fulfilled.  

 

(Luke) (06:46) And why call me (Jesus) Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say.

 

 

 

    Paul says John, James, and Peter speak a different Gospel then he does                 

 

(Galatians)  (01:06-07) I (Paul) marvel that ye (You) are so soon removed from him(Me) that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel.  Which is NOT another, but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. 

 

(Paul comes across these 3, about 4 or 5 passages after he makes this statment and Paul never knew Christ, these 3 did)

 

Answer: It is Paul who teaches another Gospel, for his is the Synagogue of Satan and he who is not stiff necked will see Paul, and his teachings for what they really are.

 

 

 

_Paul&#039;s Dishonesty, lies, and Craftiness   (Paul said he doesn&#039;t, then hours later he does it)

 

(2nd Corinthians) (04:01-02) Therefore seeing we (Paul and Timothy) have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; but have renounced the hidden things of DISHONESTY, not walking in CRAFTINESS, nor handling the word of God DECEITFULLY.

 

(2nd Corinthians) (12:16) But be it so, I (Paul) did not burden you: never the less, being &quot;CRAFTY&quot;, I (Paul) caught you with &quot;Guile&quot;.

 

(Guile)&quot; is twice the translation of (mirmah) (deceit) (fraud)

 

(Job) (05:12) He (God) DISAPPOINTETH the devices of the CRAFTY, so that their hands cannot perform their enterprise.

 

Answer:  Paul lied, while he works those things which blames others, while he breaks them also with craftiness. Christ said they are &quot;SNAKES&quot; and &quot;SPIDERS&quot; how will they excape the gates of &quot;HELL&quot;? Yet you follow paul your God. 

 

 

 

Paul is the example of how&quot; NOT&quot; to teach the word-by lies, craftiness

 

(Paul-1st Timothy) (03:16) and without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: 

 

God was manifested the in flesh: ?????

 

 

Definition of Manifested:  Show something clearly: to make something evident by showing or demonstrating it very clearly.

 

 




(The answer from Paul about Jesus being God in the flesh) 

                                                                                                                                                                   

(Paul-Colossians) (01:15) Who (Jesus Christ) is the&quot; image&quot; of the invisible God, the first born of every creation.  

 

(Paul-Colossians) (01:03) We give thanks to God, and the father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you.

 

(Paul-Colossians) (03:01) if you then be raised with Christ seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the RIGHT HAND OF GOD 

 

 

 

PAUL&#039;S LEGACY SHOW&#039;S IT&#039;S SELF BY THE  MESSAGE WHICH SATAN SPEAKS.

 

NOW SOMEONE TELL ME HOW PAUL IS NOT THE WAY GOD SHOWS US THE OTHER DOCTRINE, AND A FALSE PROFET?

 

NOW I SAY THIS TO YOU, ASK ME, AND THE REST OF THE TRUTH SHALL BE SENT TO YOU BY  E-MAIL, BUT TRY TO REJECT, OR SALE IT AND YOU HAVE NOT FELT GODS WREATH  FOR YOU AND PAUL ARE ONE...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes I listen, and do as I hear</p>
<p>Please look over this whole message, so that you can answer these points of truth, and tell what your findings are.</p>
<p>The sabbath = Jesus = the word (Holy Bible) = 7 Days a week = KEEPING THE SABATH = in everything you do:                                </p>
<p>(Mark) (02:27-28) Christ is the Sabbath.  Jesus said unto them, The Sabbath (Jesus) was made for man, and NOT man for the Sabbath (Jesus). Therefore the son (Jesus) is Lord of the Sabbath.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                </p>
<p>(St. Luke) (06:05)  And he (Jesus) said unto them (You), that the Son of man is Lord also of the Sabbath.</p>
<p>(St. John) (05:17) But Jesus answered them (You), My Father (God) worketh hither to, and I work. (7) Seven days a week.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                     LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOUSELF: Please read all of this to see my understanding.</p>
<p>This ONLY MEANS to show the truth of chousing life. For if they won&#8217;t accept it, then they ARE NOT YOUR BROTHERT OR SISTER, and we are to dust our feet off, and have NOTHING to do with them.  We are NOT to pay their way in to more sin, for Christ said you are a partaker in their deeds. If they accept Christ, and walk his way, then by all means get them a new car, sign for a bank loan, goto the store for them, baby sit, that kind of thing, and be a true friend, one who lays his life down for another brother. You all need to understand, Christ said your eather for him, or against him, NO middle ground. </p>
<p>Now I have a QUESTION:  How is it that I see &#8220;Saint Paul&#8221; as the writing on the wall?, The written word of a False Prophet?</p>
<p>For below is what has been given to me, and it has to be Christ, or God.  All this is in your KJV Bible.</p>
<p>My understanding of Paul, from what Paul himself has shown, and said, and NOT out of CONTEXT: </p>
<p> About   Lies        ______________________________________________</p>
<p>(Revelation) (21:08) No LIE is of the truth, ALL will be in the lake of fire.</p>
<p>(1st John) (02:21) I have not written unto you because ye (you) know not the truth, but because ye (you) know it, and that NO LIE is of the truth.</p>
<p>________Paul says women are obedient if they don&#8217;t speak in church: ________                                         </p>
<p>(1st Corinthians)  (14:34) let your women keep silence in the churches for it is not permitted unto them to speak.</p>
<p>Answer: Christ said way shoulden women teach, for they raise our chrildren.</p>
<p>______You reject Christ by doing what Paul says even when Paul is shown for what he is:____</p>
<p>(John) (05:43) I (Jesus) come in my father&#8217;s name, and ye (You) receive me </p>
<p>not: If another shall come in his own name (Saint Paul) him ye will receive.</p>
<p>Answer: Paul speaks to different, for it to have been Jesus, or God.</p>
<p>_____________________________Paul makes up the truth__________________________________                               </p>
<p>(Acts) (09:03-07)</p>
<p>3) And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven: </p>
<p>  4 he fell down, no one else did:</p>
<p>4) and he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutes thou me? </p>
<p>5) And he said, who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecute: it is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. </p>
<p> 6   This is the lie about when paul was told what he was to do: (go into the city)</p>
<p>6) And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him (Paul), Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.</p>
<p>  7 was one of the lies: (heard something, seen nothing):</p>
<p>7) And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man</p>
<p>(Acts) (22:06-10)</p>
<p>6) And it came to pass, that, as I made my journey, and was come nigh unto Damascus about noon, suddenly there shone from heaven a great light round about me. </p>
<p>  7 is one of the lies:</p>
<p>7) And I fell onto the ground, and heard a voice saying unto me, Saul, Saul, why persecutes thou me? </p>
<p>8) And I answered, who art thou, Lord? And he said unto me, I am Jesus of Nazareth, whom thou persecute.</p>
<p>  9 is one of the lies   (seen something, heard nothing)</p>
<p>9) And they that were with me saw indeed the light, and were afraid; but they heard not the voice of him that spake to me. </p>
<p>(Acts) (26:12-14)</p>
<p>12) Whereupon as I went to Damascus with authority and commission from the chief priests, </p>
<p>13) At midday, O king, I saw in the way a light from heaven, above the brightness of the sun, shining round about me and them which journeyed with me. </p>
<p>14 is one of the lies:( they all fell down this time, and only paul heard anything:</p>
<p>14) And when we were all fallen to the earth, I heard a voice speaking unto</p>
<p>below is what paul was told while still in the desert, not in the city;</p>
<p> (Acts)(26:15) to (Acts) (26:18) Paul is told what to do see above (09:06)</p>
<p>ANSWER:  3 different accounts of the same context all 3 from one day, and one meating from christ so paul says.</p>
<p>1) Paul is a lie at it&#8217;s core or his words are not his anymore, meaning not to be spoken or trusted he speaks with Guile.</p>
<p>(Guile)&#8221; is twice the translation of (mirmah) (deceit) (fraud)</p>
<p>2) He lied about who heard anything.</p>
<p>3) He lied about who saw anything.</p>
<p>4) He lied about who fell down.</p>
<p>5) He lied about where, and when he was told what he was to do.</p>
<p> __Paul says to get in the face of anyone who is wrong before god:</p>
<p>(Galatians)  (02:11) But when Peter was come to Antioch, I (Paul) withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.</p>
<p>Answer: Christ said remove the log from your own eye, then you can see to remove it from anothers eye. I say Paul judges others, then by his words, we judge him looking for blame.</p>
<p>_Not under the LAW Paul said, how about reading below. Paul Double Talks:</p>
<p>(Galatians)(05:02-04)Indeed I, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law. You have become estranged from Christ, you who attempt to be justified by the law; you have fallen from grace. </p>
<p>Here he even drops his own name before telling the Galatians a severe doctrinal-lie. </p>
<p>Below Paul says the law, and commandments are holy, just and good:</p>
<p>(Romans) (07:09-12) for I (Paul) was alive without the law once, but when the commandment came.  Sin revived and I (Paul) died (in the spirit), and the commandment, which was ORDAINED to life, I (Paul) found to be unto death.  For sin, taking OCCASION by the commandment, deceived me, and by it slew me. Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandments holy, and just, and good.    </p>
<p>Answer:  Paul knows the difference between the commandments and the 300 plus man made laws. he says your saved by grace, not of  works, nor the  law to the point you&#8217;ve fell from grace. Then he says the commandments, and the Laws (300) are Holy, Good, and Just.   </p>
<p>Pauls teachings are the &#8220;Tear&#8221; from the &#8220;Wheat&#8221; , and the &#8220;False Doctrine&#8221;</p>
<p>which Christ warned us about.                                                     </p>
<p>____________The truth to keeping the commandments___________________________________</p>
<p>(Matthew) (22:36-40) &#8220;Teacher, which is the greatest commandment in the law?&#8221; Jesus said to him, &#8220;You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your mind&#8221; This is the first and the great commandment.  And the second is like it: &#8220;You shall love your neighbor as yourself&#8221;</p>
<p>(St.John)  (02:04) He (You) that saith, I know him (Jesus Christ), and keepeth NOT his (Gods) commandments, is a LIAR, and the truth is not in him.</p>
<p>(St.John)  (14:15) If Ye (You) love me (Jesus), Keep my commandments.</p>
<p>(Matthew) (05:18-19) For verily I (Jesus)  say unto you, till heaven, and earth pass, NOT one jot or one tittle shall in NO WISE pass from the law till all be fulfilled.  </p>
<p>(Luke) (06:46) And why call me (Jesus) Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say.</p>
<p>    Paul says John, James, and Peter speak a different Gospel then he does                 </p>
<p>(Galatians)  (01:06-07) I (Paul) marvel that ye (You) are so soon removed from him(Me) that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel.  Which is NOT another, but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ. </p>
<p>(Paul comes across these 3, about 4 or 5 passages after he makes this statment and Paul never knew Christ, these 3 did)</p>
<p>Answer: It is Paul who teaches another Gospel, for his is the Synagogue of Satan and he who is not stiff necked will see Paul, and his teachings for what they really are.</p>
<p>_Paul&#8217;s Dishonesty, lies, and Craftiness   (Paul said he doesn&#8217;t, then hours later he does it)</p>
<p>(2nd Corinthians) (04:01-02) Therefore seeing we (Paul and Timothy) have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; but have renounced the hidden things of DISHONESTY, not walking in CRAFTINESS, nor handling the word of God DECEITFULLY.</p>
<p>(2nd Corinthians) (12:16) But be it so, I (Paul) did not burden you: never the less, being &#8220;CRAFTY&#8221;, I (Paul) caught you with &#8220;Guile&#8221;.</p>
<p>(Guile)&#8221; is twice the translation of (mirmah) (deceit) (fraud)</p>
<p>(Job) (05:12) He (God) DISAPPOINTETH the devices of the CRAFTY, so that their hands cannot perform their enterprise.</p>
<p>Answer:  Paul lied, while he works those things which blames others, while he breaks them also with craftiness. Christ said they are &#8220;SNAKES&#8221; and &#8220;SPIDERS&#8221; how will they excape the gates of &#8220;HELL&#8221;? Yet you follow paul your God. </p>
<p>Paul is the example of how&#8221; NOT&#8221; to teach the word-by lies, craftiness</p>
<p>(Paul-1st Timothy) (03:16) and without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: </p>
<p>God was manifested the in flesh: ?????</p>
<p>Definition of Manifested:  Show something clearly: to make something evident by showing or demonstrating it very clearly.</p>
<p>(The answer from Paul about Jesus being God in the flesh) </p>
<p>(Paul-Colossians) (01:15) Who (Jesus Christ) is the&#8221; image&#8221; of the invisible God, the first born of every creation.  </p>
<p>(Paul-Colossians) (01:03) We give thanks to God, and the father of our Lord Jesus Christ, praying always for you.</p>
<p>(Paul-Colossians) (03:01) if you then be raised with Christ seek those things which are above, where Christ sitteth on the RIGHT HAND OF GOD </p>
<p>PAUL&#8217;S LEGACY SHOW&#8217;S IT&#8217;S SELF BY THE  MESSAGE WHICH SATAN SPEAKS.</p>
<p>NOW SOMEONE TELL ME HOW PAUL IS NOT THE WAY GOD SHOWS US THE OTHER DOCTRINE, AND A FALSE PROFET?</p>
<p>NOW I SAY THIS TO YOU, ASK ME, AND THE REST OF THE TRUTH SHALL BE SENT TO YOU BY  E-MAIL, BUT TRY TO REJECT, OR SALE IT AND YOU HAVE NOT FELT GODS WREATH  FOR YOU AND PAUL ARE ONE&#8230;</p>
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