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		<title>By: tebowmanofcharacter</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/21/does-public-prayer-go-against-the-bible/#comment-52953</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 02:57:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you consider the &quot;spirit&quot; of the law and not so much the letter of the law, it is clear that Christ does not ban prayer in public.  First, the Bible itself states that not everything important to the Christian faith is recorded in it. For example, not everything that Christ did is recorded in the inspired Books (John 21:25).  

Mathew 6:6 is so misinterpreted, it&#039;s ridiculous.  People use it to condemn public prayer in school and people like Tim Tebow.  People need to consider the intent and spirit - NOT just the words.  It&#039;s been mentioned above by others, but I&#039;ll say again: try focusing on the spirit of Matthew 18: 20 Christ says &quot; For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you consider the &#8220;spirit&#8221; of the law and not so much the letter of the law, it is clear that Christ does not ban prayer in public.  First, the Bible itself states that not everything important to the Christian faith is recorded in it. For example, not everything that Christ did is recorded in the inspired Books (John 21:25).  </p>
<p>Mathew 6:6 is so misinterpreted, it&#8217;s ridiculous.  People use it to condemn public prayer in school and people like Tim Tebow.  People need to consider the intent and spirit &#8211; NOT just the words.  It&#8217;s been mentioned above by others, but I&#8217;ll say again: try focusing on the spirit of Matthew 18: 20 Christ says &#8221; For where two or three are gathered in my name, there am I in the midst of them&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Floyd Adams III</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/21/does-public-prayer-go-against-the-bible/#comment-52646</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Floyd Adams III]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Dec 2011 09:13:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am a so Called &quot;Evangelical&quot; but often get so angry with politicians that use Christianity for political gain. In these so called &quot;troubled&quot; times they seem to have missed the blessing of God is to be a blessing (they&#039;re not sharing any money) The political right claims their system is closest to God&#039;s government. Well God&#039;s government is a kingdom. One ruler with their rules. 
I could go on so I better stop because I&#039;m getting off topic. I think the best example of public prayer I could find at the moment is this to follow. The forum is the temple, but it is public. We might live in a democratic capitalistic society, but there are those that live under theocratic regime and suffer daily due to the forced religion upon them. Religion causes strife, envy, bitterness, etc that man is responsible for. The Judeo Christian belief is to give honor and glory to the unseen god who makes the most outrageous claims of creation, dominion and ownership as no other god. Here is what He says about what he sees and honours in public prayer; 2 Chronicles 7:14-16 (NIV)
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. [15] Now my eyes will be open and my ears attentive to the prayers offered in this place. [16] I have chosen and consecrated this temple so that my Name may be there forever. My eyes and my heart will always be there.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am a so Called &#8220;Evangelical&#8221; but often get so angry with politicians that use Christianity for political gain. In these so called &#8220;troubled&#8221; times they seem to have missed the blessing of God is to be a blessing (they&#8217;re not sharing any money) The political right claims their system is closest to God&#8217;s government. Well God&#8217;s government is a kingdom. One ruler with their rules.<br />
I could go on so I better stop because I&#8217;m getting off topic. I think the best example of public prayer I could find at the moment is this to follow. The forum is the temple, but it is public. We might live in a democratic capitalistic society, but there are those that live under theocratic regime and suffer daily due to the forced religion upon them. Religion causes strife, envy, bitterness, etc that man is responsible for. The Judeo Christian belief is to give honor and glory to the unseen god who makes the most outrageous claims of creation, dominion and ownership as no other god. Here is what He says about what he sees and honours in public prayer; 2 Chronicles 7:14-16 (NIV)<br />
if my people, who are called by my name, will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then will I hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and will heal their land. [15] Now my eyes will be open and my ears attentive to the prayers offered in this place. [16] I have chosen and consecrated this temple so that my Name may be there forever. My eyes and my heart will always be there.</p>
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		<title>By: gee</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/21/does-public-prayer-go-against-the-bible/#comment-52520</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:09:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s says do not be like Tebow]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s says do not be like Tebow</p>
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		<title>By: gee</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/21/does-public-prayer-go-against-the-bible/#comment-52519</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2011 21:08:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[this passage is talking about your personal private pryers]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this passage is talking about your personal private pryers</p>
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		<title>By: CTC</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/21/does-public-prayer-go-against-the-bible/#comment-52166</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[CTC]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Oct 2011 03:35:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Why is it always &quot;the Pharisee&quot; with you guys? You&#039;ve been taught this, so you believe it, but the Bible very specifically gives these guidelines for prayer - it&#039;s to be private, not at a synagogue or church or in public anywhere but your home or a private space. Jesus lived by this example as we can see in the Bible. Why do Christians deny the basis for their religion, the Son of God, for dogma?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why is it always &#8220;the Pharisee&#8221; with you guys? You&#8217;ve been taught this, so you believe it, but the Bible very specifically gives these guidelines for prayer &#8211; it&#8217;s to be private, not at a synagogue or church or in public anywhere but your home or a private space. Jesus lived by this example as we can see in the Bible. Why do Christians deny the basis for their religion, the Son of God, for dogma?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/21/does-public-prayer-go-against-the-bible/#comment-51964</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Oct 2011 03:56:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[What is the purpose of public prayer? Is this done in order to pressure people of a different faith to conform to the majority through a blaring loudspeaker? I&#039;m not saying that you should hide yourself when you pray, but do not do it in a loud and obnoxious way. A blessing asked over a restaurant dinner, done tastefully and for the benefit of like minded people at the same table is not at all the same as a loudspeaker at a football game where hundreds or even thousands of people are forced to endure the long-winded and sometimes insincere droning of a prideful person with a captive audience and an open microphone. The Pledge Of Allegiance, however, is something else entirely. This is not a prayer, although some like to draw it as a parallel. Our country may or may not be a Christian place. It is still the United States Of America. If you do not approve of the United States Of America, and have a reason to refuse pledging allegiance to it, you are an Enemy Of The State. So i support the recitation of the pledge in any public event. (I include this statement for those of you who did not read through the beginning comments of this blog.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is the purpose of public prayer? Is this done in order to pressure people of a different faith to conform to the majority through a blaring loudspeaker? I&#8217;m not saying that you should hide yourself when you pray, but do not do it in a loud and obnoxious way. A blessing asked over a restaurant dinner, done tastefully and for the benefit of like minded people at the same table is not at all the same as a loudspeaker at a football game where hundreds or even thousands of people are forced to endure the long-winded and sometimes insincere droning of a prideful person with a captive audience and an open microphone. The Pledge Of Allegiance, however, is something else entirely. This is not a prayer, although some like to draw it as a parallel. Our country may or may not be a Christian place. It is still the United States Of America. If you do not approve of the United States Of America, and have a reason to refuse pledging allegiance to it, you are an Enemy Of The State. So i support the recitation of the pledge in any public event. (I include this statement for those of you who did not read through the beginning comments of this blog.)</p>
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		<title>By: Ubi Dubium</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/21/does-public-prayer-go-against-the-bible/#comment-51781</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Ubi Dubium]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Jun 2011 02:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[@jamesmeek

You are on the wrong website to be talking about &quot;us as christians&quot;.  Take your &quot;genuine prayer&quot; and &quot;holy spirit&quot; to some other website that&#039;s for &quot;you christians&quot; and don&#039;t spew it here.  Thanks.]]></description>
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<p>You are on the wrong website to be talking about &#8220;us as christians&#8221;.  Take your &#8220;genuine prayer&#8221; and &#8220;holy spirit&#8221; to some other website that&#8217;s for &#8220;you christians&#8221; and don&#8217;t spew it here.  Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Jameek777</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/21/does-public-prayer-go-against-the-bible/#comment-51779</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jameek777]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Jun 2011 21:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[THE PASSAGE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE KIND OF PUBLIC PRAYER THIS BLOG DEALS WITH!!!!! The passage speaks of public prayer that is for your own gain, meaning that you&#039;re doing it to be seen. Example: you and a friend are at a coffee shop and your friend asks you to pray for her. Then all of a sudden you grab her hand and start shouting the prayer for the whole building to here. That is the public prayer the passage speaks off, not the genuine prayer that we say before we eat, or if we happen to wrapped up in the Holy Spirit o anytime else. You also have to remember that us as Christians, should always do things decent and in orde]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>THE PASSAGE WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE KIND OF PUBLIC PRAYER THIS BLOG DEALS WITH!!!!! The passage speaks of public prayer that is for your own gain, meaning that you&#8217;re doing it to be seen. Example: you and a friend are at a coffee shop and your friend asks you to pray for her. Then all of a sudden you grab her hand and start shouting the prayer for the whole building to here. That is the public prayer the passage speaks off, not the genuine prayer that we say before we eat, or if we happen to wrapped up in the Holy Spirit o anytime else. You also have to remember that us as Christians, should always do things decent and in orde</p>
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		<title>By: Isabelle S.</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/21/does-public-prayer-go-against-the-bible/#comment-51152</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Isabelle S.]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Jan 2011 01:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[see here in America we have freedom of religion. &quot; congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free excersise thereof. so as far as the constitution goes i can and will pray publicly because its my right. no one can tell me to not say that God is good and amazing ( which e is) because that is my freedom of speech.  but as far as the Bible goes I am not sure that Jesus does not look fondly on us saying out loud &quot; Dear Lord, please bless this food to my body, amen.&quot; so i intend to  find out for myself without anyones opinion. opinion isnt fact.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>see here in America we have freedom of religion. &#8221; congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free excersise thereof. so as far as the constitution goes i can and will pray publicly because its my right. no one can tell me to not say that God is good and amazing ( which e is) because that is my freedom of speech.  but as far as the Bible goes I am not sure that Jesus does not look fondly on us saying out loud &#8221; Dear Lord, please bless this food to my body, amen.&#8221; so i intend to  find out for myself without anyones opinion. opinion isnt fact.</p>
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		<title>By: kk</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/01/21/does-public-prayer-go-against-the-bible/#comment-44246</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 02:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hmm. Christians try to interpret straightforward things in a way that will suit their way of life. The fact is they&#039;ve grown up learning to pray in public, so without being told that prayer should be in secret. So, when they come to learn this, they find various versus that have the slightest hint of public prayer and use it to defend their practice. Well, they have their reward.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm. Christians try to interpret straightforward things in a way that will suit their way of life. The fact is they&#8217;ve grown up learning to pray in public, so without being told that prayer should be in secret. So, when they come to learn this, they find various versus that have the slightest hint of public prayer and use it to defend their practice. Well, they have their reward.</p>
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