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		<title>By: Stephen Thomas</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/09/for-the-one-life-we-have/#comment-16482</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Feb 2008 12:59:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. What a beautiful story -- the ability to live. Well said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. What a beautiful story &#8212; the ability to live. Well said.</p>
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		<title>By: sal</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/09/for-the-one-life-we-have/#comment-16111</link>
		<dc:creator>sal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 17:58:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>thank you for defining the majesty of God&#039;s creation by the uncreated first cause.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thank you for defining the majesty of God&#8217;s creation by the uncreated first cause.</p>
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		<title>By: burredbrain</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/09/for-the-one-life-we-have/#comment-16081</link>
		<dc:creator>burredbrain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2008 03:03:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yurka: 

Exactly what mechanism is in place that prevents &quot;micro-evolution&quot; from becoming &quot;macro-evolution&quot;?  And under what circumstances does this mechanism act?  Please be as precise as possible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yurka: </p>
<p>Exactly what mechanism is in place that prevents &#8220;micro-evolution&#8221; from becoming &#8220;macro-evolution&#8221;?  And under what circumstances does this mechanism act?  Please be as precise as possible.</p>
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		<title>By: LeoPardus</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/09/for-the-one-life-we-have/#comment-15983</link>
		<dc:creator>LeoPardus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:43:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yurka:

Had to look up Lewis and inclusivism. It appears that you must be &quot;exclusivist&quot; in a Doug Wilson mode too.  I.e.  everybody goes to hell unless they heard the gospel of Christ and accepted Jesus explicitly as savior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yurka:</p>
<p>Had to look up Lewis and inclusivism. It appears that you must be &#8220;exclusivist&#8221; in a Doug Wilson mode too.  I.e.  everybody goes to hell unless they heard the gospel of Christ and accepted Jesus explicitly as savior.</p>
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		<title>By: LeoPardus</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/09/for-the-one-life-we-have/#comment-15982</link>
		<dc:creator>LeoPardus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:37:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yurka:

Go read the last chapter of &quot;Mere Christianity&quot;. Nothing equivocal there.

Inclusivism? Of whom? 

And his views on inerrancy were far left? ... Oh yes. You&#039;re a Doug Wilson reformed sort. That puts you a long ways beyond the right wing tip. Baptists must look at least moderate to you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yurka:</p>
<p>Go read the last chapter of &#8220;Mere Christianity&#8221;. Nothing equivocal there.</p>
<p>Inclusivism? Of whom? </p>
<p>And his views on inerrancy were far left? &#8230; Oh yes. You&#8217;re a Doug Wilson reformed sort. That puts you a long ways beyond the right wing tip. Baptists must look at least moderate to you.</p>
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		<title>By: Yurka</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/09/for-the-one-life-we-have/#comment-15967</link>
		<dc:creator>Yurka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LP: he mentioned it as a possibility in Problem of Pain, but AFAIK he  wasn&#039;t a committed evolutionist. I will admit he did hold some far left views on things (inerrancy, inclusivism), but given his environment that&#039;s probably excusable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LP: he mentioned it as a possibility in Problem of Pain, but AFAIK he  wasn&#8217;t a committed evolutionist. I will admit he did hold some far left views on things (inerrancy, inclusivism), but given his environment that&#8217;s probably excusable.</p>
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		<title>By: LeoPardus</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/09/for-the-one-life-we-have/#comment-15963</link>
		<dc:creator>LeoPardus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 23:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yurka:

Uhm... I hate to have to break this to you, but.... C.S. Lewis was an evolutionist.  You really ought to read his stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yurka:</p>
<p>Uhm&#8230; I hate to have to break this to you, but&#8230;. C.S. Lewis was an evolutionist.  You really ought to read his stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: evanescent</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/09/for-the-one-life-we-have/#comment-15958</link>
		<dc:creator>evanescent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 19:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yurka, there is no dichotomy between micro evolution and macro evolution.  I don&#039;t feel inclined to explain this in detail to you, since evolution is a readily and easily researchable topic and we both know the reason you don&#039;t bother to study it is because of your religious prejudices, but evolution is change of gene frequencies in a population over time.  When these gene frequencies occur within species the result is &quot;micro evolution.&quot;  Over time however, gene frequencies do change to the point where a creature is no longer the same breed or even species as its ancestors were.  The gene &quot;makeup&quot; (genotype) presents itself by how a creature looks (phenotype).  Creatures that look similar tend to have a common ancestor (horses, donkeys, camels etc), but not always.

All counter arguments to evolution basically boil down to this: &quot;wow this creature doesn&#039;t look anything like that one!  I cannot possibly see how that could ever happen, therefore it didn&#039;t!&quot;  It&#039;s an argument from incredulity, and usually a strawman anyway.

Since we both know you&#039;re not open to reason, only faith, I leave you with two articles I&#039;ve written which should help you understand evolution a lot better should you ever decide to learn:

http://ellis14.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/my-evolution-elucidation-wed-1st-aug-07/
http://ellis14.wordpress.com/2007/09/13/common-descent-uncommon-knowledge/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yurka, there is no dichotomy between micro evolution and macro evolution.  I don&#8217;t feel inclined to explain this in detail to you, since evolution is a readily and easily researchable topic and we both know the reason you don&#8217;t bother to study it is because of your religious prejudices, but evolution is change of gene frequencies in a population over time.  When these gene frequencies occur within species the result is &#8220;micro evolution.&#8221;  Over time however, gene frequencies do change to the point where a creature is no longer the same breed or even species as its ancestors were.  The gene &#8220;makeup&#8221; (genotype) presents itself by how a creature looks (phenotype).  Creatures that look similar tend to have a common ancestor (horses, donkeys, camels etc), but not always.</p>
<p>All counter arguments to evolution basically boil down to this: &#8220;wow this creature doesn&#8217;t look anything like that one!  I cannot possibly see how that could ever happen, therefore it didn&#8217;t!&#8221;  It&#8217;s an argument from incredulity, and usually a strawman anyway.</p>
<p>Since we both know you&#8217;re not open to reason, only faith, I leave you with two articles I&#8217;ve written which should help you understand evolution a lot better should you ever decide to learn:</p>
<p><a href="http://ellis14.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/my-evolution-elucidation-wed-1st-aug-07/" rel="nofollow">http://ellis14.wordpress.com/2007/08/01/my-evolution-elucidation-wed-1st-aug-07/</a><br />
<a href="http://ellis14.wordpress.com/2007/09/13/common-descent-uncommon-knowledge/" rel="nofollow">http://ellis14.wordpress.com/2007/09/13/common-descent-uncommon-knowledge/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Yurka</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/09/for-the-one-life-we-have/#comment-15948</link>
		<dc:creator>Yurka</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 18:12:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Only micro-evolution (evolution dependent on pre-existing information) continues to occur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Only micro-evolution (evolution dependent on pre-existing information) continues to occur.</p>
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		<title>By: evanescent</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/09/for-the-one-life-we-have/#comment-15944</link>
		<dc:creator>evanescent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2008 17:49:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yurka, evolution isn&#039;t a miracle.

No matter how unlikely you personally think evolution is, doesn&#039;t change the fact that has and continues to happen.

No matter how unlikely you personally feel evolution is, you still reject it on a notion that everything so incredibly complex had to have a cause - yet the most complex being of all that started it all apparently had no cause.  BANG.  That is the cosmological argument imploding.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yurka, evolution isn&#8217;t a miracle.</p>
<p>No matter how unlikely you personally think evolution is, doesn&#8217;t change the fact that has and continues to happen.</p>
<p>No matter how unlikely you personally feel evolution is, you still reject it on a notion that everything so incredibly complex had to have a cause &#8211; yet the most complex being of all that started it all apparently had no cause.  BANG.  That is the cosmological argument imploding.</p>
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