Comments on: The point of Christian faith in a secular world http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/ Resources for skeptical, de-converting, or former Christians...... Tue, 21 May 2013 04:39:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: jazzop http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-41484 Sun, 04 Apr 2010 04:55:16 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-41484 Wow! Nastiest group of online people I’ve seen since Weight Watchers!

]]> By: LeoPardus http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29606 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:25:00 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29606 Apology for that last sentence too. Sheesh!

]]> By: LeoPardus http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29605 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:24:19 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29605 Apologia for comments on IQ. It is indeed something that people cannot help (since it’s intrinsic) and as such should not be something that is picked on anymore than eye color or height.

]]> By: orDover http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29599 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 20:08:24 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29599 I just want to point out that my comment above had nothing to do with IQ. It’s a relevant observation that both parties had grammar and spelling errors. This isn’t the first time that a Christian commentor’s spouse or relative has come to their defense. There have also been trolls who use a series of different aliases to bolster their own opinions. It follows and typical pattern of behavior, and so we are understandably skeptical.

]]> By: ExEvangel http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29598 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:55:50 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29598 I’ve been out of the loop lately–my job has made questions of faith pretty low down the list of things I wrestle with on a daily basis. I have been focused on struggling to keep up and hopefully build for the future. I remember being busy when I was younger and yet still having time to do things that I wanted to do (like go to church! LOL), and I find now that that that has not necessarily been the case.

But the reason that I wanted to comment now after all these comments is that I agree that there really is no good reason to make the comments about IQ. I’ve been fairly agitated about this assumption during the election campaign, since I live in England I discovered that the majority of Brits here seem to think the red-center state-Christian types are all toothless wonders who couldn’t finish high school. I really despise any association of the concepts of intelligence and religious belief as though having one meant you could not have the other. Some of the Christians I know are some of the smartest people I know.

Now I can agree that there are some grammatical issues here in these comments, but last time I checked IQ was a measure of base intelligence, not education level (which is often associated with good grammar). Never good to sink to the levels of the trolls!

]]> By: Josh http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29597 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 19:46:40 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29597 Guys, no offense, but we should not judge people based on their IQ, period. I agree that Greg is most likely a troll, but lets not create an elitist mentality and fulfill people’s stereotypes of us.

]]> By: LeoPardus http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29594 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 16:35:42 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29594 Isn’t it a strange coincidence that his wife also suffers from the same?

I’ve noticed that happens every time when some low IQ troll creates a “sock puppet” identity.

]]> By: ubi dubium http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29593 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 14:07:24 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29593 Thank you Quester. That echoes my sentiments exactly.

]]> By: Quester http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29592 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 07:16:34 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29592 Greg and Nathalie,

If you have a hard time believing that God exists, we will support you through your struggle, your grief over your loss of faith, and your looking at the world again without theism.

If you have evidence (not anecdotal) that God exists, present it.

If you want to learn, go ahead and read. If you have any questions which aren’t clearly rhetorical, or haven’t been answered several times, go ahead and ask.

If you want to share your life stories, tales of what Jesus has done for you, what God has called you to, scripture passages and unconvincing analogies, try a Google search for “Christian forums” and visit them, or start a blog or forum of your own. As you might be able to guess by now, such stories are not particularly welcome here. They’re both condescending and unhelpful, like most mission work.

I don’t care how genuine your heart is, nor how tragic your life story before Jesus found you. If you have evidence we can examine for ourselves, share it. Otherwise, stay and learn or leave and preach elsewhere. If you choose instead to stay and preach, don’t be surprised if the response you garner treats you with no more respect than your words earn you, as has been the case thus far.

]]> By: orDover http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29590 Sun, 30 Nov 2008 06:03:24 +0000 http://de-conversion.com/2008/02/23/the-point-of-christian-faith-in-a-secular-world/#comment-29590 Leo wrote,

Or combine the bad spelling, bad grammar, lousy syntax…

Isn’t it a strange coincidence that his wife also suffers from the same?

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