Comments on: Convenient categories: Why Christians believe de-cons leave the faith

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By: Ubi Dubium

Ubi Dubium — Sun, 06 Nov 2011 02:35:55 +0000

Anonymous, the list above is a list of the typical assumptions christians make about why we left, instead of asking us our reasons and listening to what we say. We hear these assumptions over and over, and they are not correct. I’ve never heard a single deconvert give any of the reasons listed above as a reason why they left religion.

There is another companion post to this about “inconvenient categories” that describes the reasons why we really deconverted. You can find it here: http://de-conversion.com/2008/04/07/inconvenient-categories-the-really-real-reasons-de-cons-left-the-faith/ Read that, and see if you understand more.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Sat, 05 Nov 2011 16:35:13 +0000

Um, forgive my ignorance here (I’m a Christian and I just sort of skimmed through the article and comments, no time for it heh heh :/ ) But is this list of categories supposed to make these arguments invalid somehow? Or is it just a list? Because as far as I can see, these are all things that I’ve observed in people leaving their faith (edit: not ALL of the reasons. I’m not about to tell you you’re being controlled by Satan or any of that garbage.) . If you’re saying these are invalid judgments, please tell me. I do believe people should think freely and believe what they want, but I don’t understand why saying something such as “You might have felt wronged by the Church because the people in it and/or that particular faith just didn’t cut it for you and/or just weren’t a good fit with you.” Again, forgive me if I sound like a jerk here, because I really don’t want to. I just want a reasonable debate and stuff.

By: geyser of pish-posh

geyser of pish-posh — Wed, 13 May 2009 00:46:11 +0000

i came upon this site this very day and was guilty of skimmimg its waterfall of commentary until i came to the VERY attention-commanding exchange between Joe and this man called LeoPardus; i am on the fly right now but may i debut hereupon by opining that Joe’s steady (whatever you do don’t mention the rockl!) perseverance – maybe even forbearance? – in the face of LP’s fierce outrage has, well it’s got me going already, and may i ask Joe if he thinks it is possible that we could do any better than the somewhat inscrutable idea of a ‘martyr complex’? The term is way too rooted somehow in glug, glug, depth psychology and most-of-all raises the threshold-of-signification too high – i think the only way to hurdle this hurdle is to cease to speak of who has suffered the most as if this were some hit parade; and learn to slowly express, in some small way, just what one estimates has been suffered – hopefully without copious recourse to choldhood abuse and all the circular gothic narratives proceeding from that – i am of the reckoning that the worst suffreing IS wholly inexplicable & indescribable – who after all can find words for a single nightmare that scrapes your very soul of its substance and requires days for personal recomposition… but this is too hasty a post – please know i’m stoked to be on board; now hand me a decent OAR why don’t you!

By: SnugglyBuffalo

SnugglyBuffalo — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 05:25:06 +0000

Hah, that still doesn’t top the time my mom said we shouldn’t do science and just let God reveal what he wants to us.

By: wotthe7734

wotthe7734 — Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:54:36 +0000

A direct quote from an InterVarsity leader:

“You think too much. God doesn’t need thinkers.”

Sometimes I wish I could meet him again and tell him thanks for driving me to write off the entire Evangelical scene with that piece of whizz-dumb.

By: The ties that bind: Factors that make de-conversion difficult « de-conversion

Tue, 19 Aug 2008 03:38:05 +0000

[...] That’s it for now. Y’all pile on with more and I’ll add them in time. Previous Lists: Convenient categories: Why Christians believe de-cons leave the faith Inconvenient categories: The reasons de-cons leave [...]

By: The de-Convert

The de-Convert — Sun, 17 Aug 2008 05:16:27 +0000

Great organization of our lists:

http://church-discipline.blogspot.com/2008/08/deconversion.html

By: Daon

Daon — Mon, 11 Aug 2008 16:14:57 +0000

What? Only 38 reasons? What a disappointment!

By: silentj

silentj — Wed, 06 Aug 2008 14:49:29 +0000

IT’s wrong of me to find this funny, but…

At the top of the post Apostate linked to:

“Reclaiming the Mind Ministries is in great financial need. Please consider a small (or large!) tax-deductable donation. Thanks for visiting!”