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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/06/07/why-d-c-4-the-hypocritical-churches/#comment-29531</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 18:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I guess that makes sense. Wouldn&#039;t it be a little strange for me to worship the same god as another person that stabbed me in the back? That is just my point of view. I usually just stay away from God and his people.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess that makes sense. Wouldn&#8217;t it be a little strange for me to worship the same god as another person that stabbed me in the back? That is just my point of view. I usually just stay away from God and his people.</p>
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		<title>By: 7 Reasons why Christians de-convert &#171; de-conversion</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/06/07/why-d-c-4-the-hypocritical-churches/#comment-21380</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[7 Reasons why Christians de-convert &#171; de-conversion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 15:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Why d-C? (5) The Problem of Other Religions &#171; de-conversion</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/06/07/why-d-c-4-the-hypocritical-churches/#comment-20331</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Why d-C? (5) The Problem of Other Religions &#171; de-conversion]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jun 2008 04:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 16, 2008   Where I was surprised at how rare stories of religious hypocrisy were among the de-conversion stories I read, I did not even expect the following cause of [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: aussie guy</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/06/07/why-d-c-4-the-hypocritical-churches/#comment-20243</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[aussie guy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Jun 2008 23:25:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[dood. lets be real with each other. we ALL without exception at some time or another have been hipo-critical {a spelling joke. ha ha} even if we havent realised it. but unconditional love overlooks this and excepts others knowing that God is will render to each their just reward. From an atheistic point of view i can understand where you are coming from but seeing what you are taking about in church life does does not change my mind about who i believe in or in me loving my neighbour because i know i havent been a roll model myself at times! God sees it all.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dood. lets be real with each other. we ALL without exception at some time or another have been hipo-critical {a spelling joke. ha ha} even if we havent realised it. but unconditional love overlooks this and excepts others knowing that God is will render to each their just reward. From an atheistic point of view i can understand where you are coming from but seeing what you are taking about in church life does does not change my mind about who i believe in or in me loving my neighbour because i know i havent been a roll model myself at times! God sees it all.</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/06/07/why-d-c-4-the-hypocritical-churches/#comment-20123</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Anonymous]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:29:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[For a better perspective on the above discussion, please read the book &quot;The Evolution of Creativity&quot; By Jorgen Hursner, a very creative evolutionist. &quot;We have all forgotten what we were supposed to remember&quot; says Jorgen, &quot;and our forgetfulness reminds us to remember what we were trying to forget to remember&quot;. Jorgen&#039;s insight into hyprocrisy in churches is also delightful: &quot;All churches are hypocritically inclined&quot; he says, &quot;I know because I&#039;ve been paid off several times to state otherwise&quot;

&quot;You can trust what I have to say&quot; says Jorgen, &quot;because I no longer take bribes, accept when I need to pay a bill or two&quot; he says sincerely. &quot;Unbelievably, I do not believe in belief&quot; says Jorgen, &quot;It is undoubtedly true that my doubts lead to doubt in the doubtful, but it&#039;s Ok because I believe doubt is believable without a doubt.&quot;   You can find the book in most bookstores---it is quite an interesting book and I would recommend it to everyone who has a problem with schnauzers or kittens.

Thanks,  Bertram]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For a better perspective on the above discussion, please read the book &#8220;The Evolution of Creativity&#8221; By Jorgen Hursner, a very creative evolutionist. &#8220;We have all forgotten what we were supposed to remember&#8221; says Jorgen, &#8220;and our forgetfulness reminds us to remember what we were trying to forget to remember&#8221;. Jorgen&#8217;s insight into hyprocrisy in churches is also delightful: &#8220;All churches are hypocritically inclined&#8221; he says, &#8220;I know because I&#8217;ve been paid off several times to state otherwise&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;You can trust what I have to say&#8221; says Jorgen, &#8220;because I no longer take bribes, accept when I need to pay a bill or two&#8221; he says sincerely. &#8220;Unbelievably, I do not believe in belief&#8221; says Jorgen, &#8220;It is undoubtedly true that my doubts lead to doubt in the doubtful, but it&#8217;s Ok because I believe doubt is believable without a doubt.&#8221;   You can find the book in most bookstores&#8212;it is quite an interesting book and I would recommend it to everyone who has a problem with schnauzers or kittens.</p>
<p>Thanks,  Bertram</p>
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		<title>By: TheNerd</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/06/07/why-d-c-4-the-hypocritical-churches/#comment-20097</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:00:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[killpack99:  Such an original arguement!  I don&#039;t know why neither I nor anyone else on this site never thought of this before!  God must have forgotten to give me the Holy Spirit, but I&#039;m sure if I recant my heresy,  he&#039;ll give it to me for real this time.

...And now, back to reality.  ;)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>killpack99:  Such an original arguement!  I don&#8217;t know why neither I nor anyone else on this site never thought of this before!  God must have forgotten to give me the Holy Spirit, but I&#8217;m sure if I recant my heresy,  he&#8217;ll give it to me for real this time.</p>
<p>&#8230;And now, back to reality.  <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: ninepoundhammer</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/06/07/why-d-c-4-the-hypocritical-churches/#comment-20088</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ninepoundhammer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 16:35:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow.  You obviously misread my comment and my intended tone.  I was simply asking a question to forward the debate; I apparently touched a nerve. 

You don&#039;t know me at all, so to assume to know my motivations or outlook is the height of error.  I know this because your post resembles nothing remotely near what I believe (about God or myself).

As for the ad hominem attack  (why call me an a**hole?), I really don&#039;t know what to make of it.  I thought I was actiing &#039;civilly.&#039;  Oh, well.  From what I gather by the comments, many of the d-c types resemble those they purport to despise so much.

So much for civil debate.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  You obviously misread my comment and my intended tone.  I was simply asking a question to forward the debate; I apparently touched a nerve. </p>
<p>You don&#8217;t know me at all, so to assume to know my motivations or outlook is the height of error.  I know this because your post resembles nothing remotely near what I believe (about God or myself).</p>
<p>As for the ad hominem attack  (why call me an a**hole?), I really don&#8217;t know what to make of it.  I thought I was actiing &#8216;civilly.&#8217;  Oh, well.  From what I gather by the comments, many of the d-c types resemble those they purport to despise so much.</p>
<p>So much for civil debate.</p>
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		<title>By: LeoPardus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LeoPardus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:53:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[9 lb percussive tool:

Yep. We fall short of our own standards. We openly admit that we are humans, and our standards are human, and we have no one to blame or credit but ourselves.  So if I fail to meet my standards, I can only resolve to do better, slap myself in the face, and try harder.

You on the other hand, can pass off the blame by saying, &quot;Well God isn&#039;t finished with me yet.&quot; then you pray to the air and expect the invisible fairy to make you better. Next time you fail, you can repeat the process with the result that you remain an asshole. 

If there was really some Holy Spirit dwelling inside you, giving you an advantage over others, then there ought to be some ability for the rest of us to see a difference. But we don&#039;t. All we see is an angry, judgmental, caustic, superioristic, immature, punk. 

Now then, prove me right yet again. Post your nasty return flame. You couldn&#039;t behave civilly if your soul depended on it.  Go ahead, child of the loving Jesus, temple of the Holy Spirit: show us what you&#039;re made of.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>9 lb percussive tool:</p>
<p>Yep. We fall short of our own standards. We openly admit that we are humans, and our standards are human, and we have no one to blame or credit but ourselves.  So if I fail to meet my standards, I can only resolve to do better, slap myself in the face, and try harder.</p>
<p>You on the other hand, can pass off the blame by saying, &#8220;Well God isn&#8217;t finished with me yet.&#8221; then you pray to the air and expect the invisible fairy to make you better. Next time you fail, you can repeat the process with the result that you remain an asshole. </p>
<p>If there was really some Holy Spirit dwelling inside you, giving you an advantage over others, then there ought to be some ability for the rest of us to see a difference. But we don&#8217;t. All we see is an angry, judgmental, caustic, superioristic, immature, punk. </p>
<p>Now then, prove me right yet again. Post your nasty return flame. You couldn&#8217;t behave civilly if your soul depended on it.  Go ahead, child of the loving Jesus, temple of the Holy Spirit: show us what you&#8217;re made of.</p>
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		<title>By: LeoPardus</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[LeoPardus]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:46:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[writerdd:

Re post 19.....  Right on! Well said!  I am going to have to remember to use that phraseology next chance I get.]]></description>
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<p>Re post 19&#8230;..  Right on! Well said!  I am going to have to remember to use that phraseology next chance I get.</p>
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		<title>By: ninepoundhammer</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[ninepoundhammer]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jun 2008 14:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My question, then, would be: Do you (atheists, d-c&#039;s, etc.) ever fall short by acting in a manner in opposition to your stated values/ goals?  If not, then congratulations, you are perfect.  If you do, should others turn their backs on you and skewer you as hypocrites?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My question, then, would be: Do you (atheists, d-c&#8217;s, etc.) ever fall short by acting in a manner in opposition to your stated values/ goals?  If not, then congratulations, you are perfect.  If you do, should others turn their backs on you and skewer you as hypocrites?</p>
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