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		<title>By: chichi</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/29/from-gospel-preacher-to-good-atheist/#comment-45968</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jun 2010 20:38:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[there is a God and Henis the owner of us all. rest your case joe]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there is a God and Henis the owner of us all. rest your case joe</p>
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		<title>By: Quester</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/29/from-gospel-preacher-to-good-atheist/#comment-44622</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 06:14:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Welsome, Phillip. Glad to hear you&#039;re getting past your fears. Let us know if we can help.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welsome, Phillip. Glad to hear you&#8217;re getting past your fears. Let us know if we can help.</p>
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		<title>By: phillipwoodfin</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/29/from-gospel-preacher-to-good-atheist/#comment-44621</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 May 2010 04:37:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[wow! thanks for posting this, i am not a minister, but your story is similar to what i feel i am experiencing now. I am not at a point where I can confidently say there is no god, but the fears of eternal torment, guilt, and never being good enough have faded.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow! thanks for posting this, i am not a minister, but your story is similar to what i feel i am experiencing now. I am not at a point where I can confidently say there is no god, but the fears of eternal torment, guilt, and never being good enough have faded.</p>
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		<title>By: The Time Before Time &#171; RLTJ&#8217;s Weblog</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/29/from-gospel-preacher-to-good-atheist/#comment-29091</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Time Before Time &#171; RLTJ&#8217;s Weblog]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 10:56:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] The Time Before&#160;Time  Posted on November 5, 2008 by rltjs   I had been into Religion lately and this caught my attention. [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] The Time Before&nbsp;Time  Posted on November 5, 2008 by rltjs   I had been into Religion lately and this caught my attention. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Rod J</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/29/from-gospel-preacher-to-good-atheist/#comment-29071</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 16:37:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We have something real we call Matter. Fact is, matter cannot be created therefore it has no beginning. Fact is, matter cannot be destroyed therefore it has no end. Matter is infinite and it occupies space. Man’s attempt to plot and measure the duration of matter is called time. Space, Time and Matter share the same fate (matter without time and space is nonsense) – and they are all INFINITE. 

10, 100, 1000, 100000000000000 trillions of years and more therefore won’t even qualify as dust in INFINITY of time. In fact man is nowhere in infinite time. He is 2008 years after Christ, in some billions of years of planet Earth, in infinite time that no one will be able to pinpoint when or where.  

Science has established that the Cosmos is not fixed. Things are all moving. And, indications point to everything in the cosmos as moving towards a point. And, the 1+2+3 of science point to a Big Bang comes a time. I did not say in the “end” but comes a time. Now the scientist said to have suggested that “perhaps time did not exist before the moment (time) of the big bang” is a fake. He does not understand what he is talking about. He forgot the irrefutable law of physics that matter cannot be created! 

Matter is infinite. And since time is infinite as matter, was he talking about the first bang or the second bang? Or, why can’t it be the 10000000th bang already that happened in infinite time? Matter is tossed out, they lost momentum, and they pulled themselves together, and get tossed all over again in space. After that, they pull themselves together again and guess what – my guess is another bang.

But let’s go back to the word “beginning”.  Beginning (and End) denotes  Finite “Time”

So, we have matter, space including time without beginning. That’s a fact. This cannot be, says man. Finite man sees everything as having a beginning and an end. If Albert Einstein is alive today maybe he’ll say “Go figure that out guys, but I have better things to do and I’m out of here.” Maybe he knew the answers but he’d rather keep them to himself in private. Maybe he hated to redefine matter as something that can be created. And when it can be created it can also be destroyed by who or what that created it! This would be incomprehensible to all his peers. A totally baseless theory!

The subject matter is beyond things concrete and solid. Man in his search for truth has come to dead ends where he faced only fathomless mysteries. Man has been attempting to find answers to the fathomless. 

Welcome to the abstract world, a world of virtual reality, where everyone cannot be absolutely right, perhaps cannot be wrong. For or against any argument in here cannot be proven.  It’s every man according to what he believes is rational, logical and sense without proof. People cannot even agree what they “saw”, or what to believe or not to believe in here. 

Anyway, I also have my beliefs and on top of them, I buy Georg Hegel – that only God knows himself. May I add to that, that only God has the sure truths because all by man (yours and mine included) in the spiritual dimension are just perceptions. Maybe I have other things to do, keep figuring, guys. Really.  (Don’t fight over who is right about God, folks.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have something real we call Matter. Fact is, matter cannot be created therefore it has no beginning. Fact is, matter cannot be destroyed therefore it has no end. Matter is infinite and it occupies space. Man’s attempt to plot and measure the duration of matter is called time. Space, Time and Matter share the same fate (matter without time and space is nonsense) – and they are all INFINITE. </p>
<p>10, 100, 1000, 100000000000000 trillions of years and more therefore won’t even qualify as dust in INFINITY of time. In fact man is nowhere in infinite time. He is 2008 years after Christ, in some billions of years of planet Earth, in infinite time that no one will be able to pinpoint when or where.  </p>
<p>Science has established that the Cosmos is not fixed. Things are all moving. And, indications point to everything in the cosmos as moving towards a point. And, the 1+2+3 of science point to a Big Bang comes a time. I did not say in the “end” but comes a time. Now the scientist said to have suggested that “perhaps time did not exist before the moment (time) of the big bang” is a fake. He does not understand what he is talking about. He forgot the irrefutable law of physics that matter cannot be created! </p>
<p>Matter is infinite. And since time is infinite as matter, was he talking about the first bang or the second bang? Or, why can’t it be the 10000000th bang already that happened in infinite time? Matter is tossed out, they lost momentum, and they pulled themselves together, and get tossed all over again in space. After that, they pull themselves together again and guess what – my guess is another bang.</p>
<p>But let’s go back to the word “beginning”.  Beginning (and End) denotes  Finite “Time”</p>
<p>So, we have matter, space including time without beginning. That’s a fact. This cannot be, says man. Finite man sees everything as having a beginning and an end. If Albert Einstein is alive today maybe he’ll say “Go figure that out guys, but I have better things to do and I’m out of here.” Maybe he knew the answers but he’d rather keep them to himself in private. Maybe he hated to redefine matter as something that can be created. And when it can be created it can also be destroyed by who or what that created it! This would be incomprehensible to all his peers. A totally baseless theory!</p>
<p>The subject matter is beyond things concrete and solid. Man in his search for truth has come to dead ends where he faced only fathomless mysteries. Man has been attempting to find answers to the fathomless. </p>
<p>Welcome to the abstract world, a world of virtual reality, where everyone cannot be absolutely right, perhaps cannot be wrong. For or against any argument in here cannot be proven.  It’s every man according to what he believes is rational, logical and sense without proof. People cannot even agree what they “saw”, or what to believe or not to believe in here. </p>
<p>Anyway, I also have my beliefs and on top of them, I buy Georg Hegel – that only God knows himself. May I add to that, that only God has the sure truths because all by man (yours and mine included) in the spiritual dimension are just perceptions. Maybe I have other things to do, keep figuring, guys. Really.  (Don’t fight over who is right about God, folks.)</p>
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		<title>By: rltjs</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/29/from-gospel-preacher-to-good-atheist/#comment-29034</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It is the mysteries of Time and Matter that gave man the idea of GOD. Solve all mysteries and God is dead, finished.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the mysteries of Time and Matter that gave man the idea of GOD. Solve all mysteries and God is dead, finished.</p>
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		<title>By: rltjs</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/29/from-gospel-preacher-to-good-atheist/#comment-29032</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rltjs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[There is no such thing as &quot;before time&quot;.  matter cannot be created nor destroyed, remember? It was always there. There is not even such thing as &quot;before matter&quot;. Many have gone nuts figuring that out. mystery.

&quot;before matter&quot; means we have  to redefine matter as something that CAN BE created but cannot be destroyed]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is no such thing as &#8220;before time&#8221;.  matter cannot be created nor destroyed, remember? It was always there. There is not even such thing as &#8220;before matter&#8221;. Many have gone nuts figuring that out. mystery.</p>
<p>&#8220;before matter&#8221; means we have  to redefine matter as something that CAN BE created but cannot be destroyed</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/29/from-gospel-preacher-to-good-atheist/#comment-29015</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Josh]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 20:54:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Before time. An oxymoron!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before time. An oxymoron!</p>
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		<title>By: rltjs</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/29/from-gospel-preacher-to-good-atheist/#comment-29012</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rltjs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 18:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think it is suggested there that some people  have gone nuts trying to fathom the unfathomable - Time.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is suggested there that some people  have gone nuts trying to fathom the unfathomable &#8211; Time.</p>
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		<title>By: rltjs</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/29/from-gospel-preacher-to-good-atheist/#comment-29011</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[rltjs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Nov 2008 18:37:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I mean, time was, is, and will always be there. matter cannot be created nor destroyed, remember? Matter has infinity of time behind and ahead of it. Time is infinite.  no explanation.  cannot be explained.  mystery.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mean, time was, is, and will always be there. matter cannot be created nor destroyed, remember? Matter has infinity of time behind and ahead of it. Time is infinite.  no explanation.  cannot be explained.  mystery.</p>
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