Comments on: The Case For Christianity http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/31/the-case-for-christianity/ Resources for skeptical, de-converting, or former Christians...... Sat, 25 May 2013 05:57:03 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.com/ By: cag http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/31/the-case-for-christianity/#comment-53845 Sat, 12 May 2012 16:59:46 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/?p=1299#comment-53845 betterwayofliving # 39, what does the bullshit in the koran and the bullshit in the bible have in common? They are both bullshit. I do not need 7 days to detect bullshit, it can usually be accomplished in less than a minute.

You are not presenting any reason that the lies in the koran are compelling. You are dealing here with rational humans, not deluded ones. We reject superstitious crap like religion. We read “holy” books critically, not reverently. When these books are read skeptically, they do not have the same effect as when they are read for confirmation. As my Iranian friend explained, the koran is not chronological. When rearranged in chronological order, it shows that Mo started out weak and conciliatory. As he gained power, this all shifted to kill, kill, kill.

The koran, like the bible, is a control mechanism, designed to give power to the in group over out groups. It is all about power, power I will not cede to these immoral, disgusting ayatollahs, imams, popes, archbishops and preachers. Scam artists the lot of them.

That book is closed. No amount of excuses for the monster you wish to impose on the rest of us will ever make your allah palatable.

Look up kafirgirl in google or yahoo. An interesting, irreverent take on some of the chapters in the koran.

]]> By: betterwayofliving http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/31/the-case-for-christianity/#comment-53840 Sat, 12 May 2012 07:34:35 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/?p=1299#comment-53840 Hello, all you people have valid points here. Anyways, you took effort to really study your religion. CONGRATS FOR THINKING!
May I suggest a simple , humble thing, for just 7 days of your life. please….?
Please try to get a translated copy of the QURAN that belongs to so called “bombers & terrorists”..
please open it a fine morning around 3 or 4am, with a refreshed mind, with no prejudices.
please do it 7 days.please.
This is a special request to HelsSailing. Because he is really truthful in his account.
All others ,too, please try.
If you get any answer..’any’ answer to your doubt, continue reading..If not, close the book.
You may contact me at alwaysthinkgood@yahoo.com.

]]> By: Eve's Apple http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/31/the-case-for-christianity/#comment-33381 Thu, 30 Apr 2009 23:39:10 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/?p=1299#comment-33381 The big problem I have with C. S. Lewis is his background before and after he became a Christian. If I recall correctly, his specality as a professor was mythology, not science; and that even as a child he was fond of making up fantasy worlds. Not that there is anything wrong with fantasy–as fantasy–but when you start talking about truth, I for one am not comfortable with mixing the two. I don’t find the account of his conversion very convincing; I would argue the case that he “returned” to Christianity because of its commonality to the myths he loved so well. According to the recent book “Planet Narnia” which talks about the astrological/mythological symbolism which pervades Lewis’ fiction, Lewis turned to writing the Narnia series after a particularly severe defeat in a debate with an atheist; licking his wounds, so to speak. I think it significant that in these stories the lion Aslan very decisively “kicks butt” unlike the Jesus of the gospels who goes passively to his death and then disappears afterwards. Is Lewis engaging in some wishful thinking here?

Lewis may be a good writer, but for someone who is looking for a faith grounded in rationality, he is not the one I would recommend. Unfortunately, if there are Christian writers of the stature of Dawkins, Gould, Asimov, et al, who are firmly grounded in the sciences and history–who are firmly grounded in reality, not mythology–I have yet to encounter them.

]]> By: Quester http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/31/the-case-for-christianity/#comment-27731 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:44:18 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/?p=1299#comment-27731 Austin,

How does that differ from any other group’s concept of any other god?

]]> By: Austin Davis http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/31/the-case-for-christianity/#comment-27725 Thu, 25 Sep 2008 17:21:46 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/?p=1299#comment-27725 Lewis speaks about how we cannot imagine or perceive things that do not exist. The critic made a reference to the Hindu god, Karishna. What you must understand is that in Hindu, the gods are imagined to have a character similar to that of a human, and human character exists. They give form to the idols they make out of combinations of things that exist, like humans and animals. They cannot know the wills of their gods just as they cannot know the will of any ordinary human, so ultimately, their concept of a god is entirely based on what exists.

]]> By: Scott Ferguson http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/31/the-case-for-christianity/#comment-25027 Fri, 08 Aug 2008 15:04:48 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/?p=1299#comment-25027 I have to disagree with the the blogger on the quality of Lewis’ fiction. I just finished blogging my experience of reading the Narnia series. I have find his writing style as well as his attitudes and theology as more appropriate to the turn of the 20th century rather than the middle of the century. Compare his writing with that of his contemporaries – Tolkien or the great early writers of science fiction.

I, too, gave up on Mere Christianity when I found found Lewis floundering on universal morality. My opinion is that Lewis writings, outside his specialty – early literature, should be disregarded entirely. One exception would be A Grief Observed which I found refreshingly human and humble. It is remarkable that so many Christians consider his work so praise worthy. Greatest Apologist of the Twentieth Century indeed!

]]> By: nixam http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/31/the-case-for-christianity/#comment-24544 Sun, 03 Aug 2008 17:11:46 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/?p=1299#comment-24544 Obi…

“rationality” – hmm! u mean the redefined one right?

]]> By: Obi http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/31/the-case-for-christianity/#comment-24509 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:51:43 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/?p=1299#comment-24509 nixam said, “While saying this Rich in ways proved that the book could not have been written by a group of people with mere rationality as a guiding light… no one would have left so many gaps unfilled…”

Hoho, I don’t think that anyone has ever accused those who wrote the Bible or any of the other ancient religious books of being rational. Far from it actually, as is evidenced by all of the impossibilities and plain falsities described in the book.
;)

]]> By: nixam http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/31/the-case-for-christianity/#comment-24504 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:29:42 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/?p=1299#comment-24504 Hey de-Convert…

I like the number of “Maybe’s” in Michael Turton’s post..

It gets us on the same page for argument and its counter argument..

Both sides are just as liable to proof as each other….

]]> By: nixam http://de-conversion.com/2008/07/31/the-case-for-christianity/#comment-24503 Sat, 02 Aug 2008 17:25:36 +0000 http://agnosticatheism.wordpress.com/?p=1299#comment-24503 “I can understand why people would have doubts about the Bible. It’s a weird, strange, goofy book!” Rich Mullins

While saying this Rich in ways proved that the book could not have been written by a group of people with mere rationality as a guiding light… no one would have left so many gaps unfilled…

anyways in the end, its faith… :)

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