Okay, so you’re saying that you shouldn’t base your decisions on what scientists say.

There are many prominant scientists that do not believe in evolution and that is all that I need to know.

Wait, now your saying that it’s okay to base you decisions on scientists, if those scientists happen to agree with your particular worldview?

Christians/Creationist will never be in the majority and we shouldn’t expect to be.

They used to be. Creationism was what everyone believed a few hundred years ago. Nearly every single scientists believed that the world was created by a god or a force. That all changed with the EVIDENCE provided by the new sciences of geology, paleontology, archeology, biology, genetics, and modern physics.

If you are a Christian, don’t doubt the Bible because some athiestic scientist claims that they proved evolution.

Yes please, don’t take anyone’s word for anything. Don’t listen to an atheistic scientists just because he in a scientist. Look at the evidence available, make your own decisions based on evidence and evidence alone, not words, whether they be spoken by an atheist scientists, a Christian pastor, or published in the Bible. The evidence that confirms evolution is out there for everyone to examine.

There is a lot of evidence to support the Bible.

Like what?

Francis Crick was known to have been interested in research about consciousness, here’s an article/paper by him as an introduction.

http://www.klab.caltech.edu/~koch/crick-koch-cc-97.html

The references cited at the end would also be great places to start as a jumping-off point.

Also, here’s a massive amount of papers and research on the subject. Some of them might not be free to view though, as some journals only allow papers published within them to be accessed for a charge.

http://consc.net/online/2

Have fun reading, it’s damn interesting material.

Leopardus –

Sadly, yeah.

Anthony Flew’s bogus book

Read also the NYT article linked to from that article. There is also this NYT review.

Instead, you give me vapid excuses about the mystery of God.

What more can you expect? The whole purpose of apologetics is to apologize for (try to make excuses for) a deity who never shows up in any way. In other words they are trying to create a defense for “my imagination is reality”. How can you get anything but vapidity from that?

Obi, I’m intrigued. Do you have a website I can read more on this? Or, could you expand? I would like to know what has been found out on this, as this was something I have been wondering too. Thanks.

Can you recommend any sites that can explain this concept of developing consciousness to a person who is definitely not scientific?

Argument from ignorance. We actually know quite a little bit about consciousness, and that knowledge grows slowly every day. Consciousness is an emergent property of inanimate matter that is arranged in a certain way. Oh, and speaking of arguments from ignorance, there’s not a single argument for the existence of god(s) that I’m aware of that doesn’t boil down to an argument from ignorance. Not a single one. And that definitely isn’t a good thing.

From there, some of us (but certainly not all) go further to say that there not only isn’t a Christian God, but that there likely isn’t a God at all, or at least not a God that is in any discernible way active in the world.

Maybe the evidence that points you to science points others to a creative force. Maybe its different perceptions for the same view.