Comments on: Obstacles to Critical Thinking

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Wed, 14 Dec 2011 16:44:32 +0000

after all this English u could not state the obstacles behind critical thinking

By: chiropractor

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By: The Inscrutable Jehovah « de-conversion

The Inscrutable Jehovah « de-conversion — Thu, 29 Oct 2009 05:35:17 +0000

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By: Servant

Servant — Wed, 14 Jan 2009 13:29:05 +0000

I had a great fun with a certain chiropractic doctor in my teenage youth. He was first and only chiro at that time in my country, and had mistified background, studying somewhere in US and returning home. He set up his “office” right in my hometown, a smal house with a yard surrounded by wooden fence, and i used to see him wearing black chlotes, always billiard ball shaven, and barefoot, taking his puppy off for a walk. Ofcourse he elevated his personality into a semi-deity and his profession into “mystical healing”, “unblocking of energies” by his “bioenergy powers” and similar stuff. I had a health problem so i decided to visit him. It was a circus from the beginning, first to see dozens of medicine appliances hanged like trophees, taken from the patients he supposedly helped, creating a personal member badge with photo and tagline “I love chiropractic”, listening to his voice on recorded radio interview for few hours, through singing to the national anthem in the yard, but peak was when he marched into the courtyard with large dildo, and started to explain how good blowjob has exceptional benefits to the health of humans. Due to my young age, I didn’t know much about dildos and their uses, so h+He almost had some chick demonstrate it on the unsuspecting rubber instrument. At the end, he didn’t help me with my problem, and his attitude towards the “unbelievers” has finally put him into jail for assaulting neighbors with large piece of his wooden fence. Ah, those days

By: TitforTat

TitforTat — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 02:01:24 +0000

If you go to a chiro with back pain, you’re getting a manipulation whether it’s needed or not.(Snuggly)

Thats why if you have back pain, go get a Massage

By: SnugglyBuffalo

SnugglyBuffalo — Fri, 09 Jan 2009 00:54:52 +0000

Oh, I don’t doubt that there are times manipulations are warranted, but I like to have actual need for it, such as a joint that is actually misaligned, rather than mythical “subluxations.”

If you go to a chiro with back pain, you’re getting a manipulation whether it’s needed or not.

By: TitforTat

TitforTat — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:49:51 +0000

Snuggly

Have you ever heard the term bone setters they predate osteopaths and Chiros? In my experience, if a joint is misaligned sometimes a “manipulation” or “setting” of that joint is required. I disagree with the frequency that it is necessary but there are times when it is warranted. I work in the field and have witnessed on countless occasions where there has been a reduction of pain and an increase in mobility following some types of manipulation. How it works from a scientific perspective is beyond me. But I have no doubt in certain instances it works. I know that doesnt make for any “exact” evidence but 20 yrs in the field has led me to that belief. By the way, I dont much like Chiros either.

By: LeoPardus

LeoPardus — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:35:14 +0000

The idea is that “energy” (sometimes called “intelligent energy”) flows through the body and facilitates health and healing.

I often forget how prevalent this abject nonsense is. That’s because I vet chiro’s before I ever set foot in their office. (Look at web sites, ads, etc) Once in their office, I look for posters showing how misalignment pinches nerves or some such. If I see anything about “energy”, I’m gone.

any Chiropractor who tells you to come to him for ANYTHING but back (or maybe neck) pain buys into the subluxation/energy idea, because without it they would have no mechanism.

BINGO!

What’s The Harm?

Crud, that’s bad “reporting”.

Here’s what I mean by proper research reporting: (You’ll only get abstracts. If you really want the whole paper, I can try to get them for you.)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18722202?ordinalpos=2&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18204390?ordinalpos=7&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18722196?ordinalpos=9&itool=EntrezSystem2.PEntrez.Pubmed.Pubmed_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_DefaultReportPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum

These are just a few that I picked out in about 30 minutes worth of looking in PubMed. They represent fairly well-constructed studies. (I can pick out holes in them even at that, but then that’s what I’m expert at.) One thing that a brief search shows is that there is NOT a lack of large ‘n’, controlled studies out there.

Even if it only might, it still isn’t worth it.

Don’t be silly. Do a search on iatrogenesis in PubMed. It’ll take a while to sort through all the papers, but once you have, you might want to run screaming in abject fear from any hospital or clinic. (Really, the incidence rates are often horrifying.)

By: SnugglyBuffalo

SnugglyBuffalo — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:26:29 +0000

Really, even if chiropractic had no risk of stroke, I wouldn’t go anywhere near it. The entire foundation is ridiculous (I’d prefer to avoid a profession that is rooted in the idea of mystical life forces), and any benefits you can get from chiropractic can also be obtained from a US Osteopath without the pseudoscientific nonsense. That’s even assuming that there’s any benefit from manipulations that can’t be obtained through other means.

By: TitforTat

TitforTat — Thu, 08 Jan 2009 22:15:51 +0000

Josh

Thats why you would probably make a better Coach, your girlfriend probably would be the better player