Most people do not know they already possess an accessible, intrinsic, exquisite timeless component within themselves. (And when I state that, do not just believe yes or proclaim not . Find out for yourself either way.) It is a free ‘rental’ while living. (And the navel’s one purpose is not related to the dual purpose of your 5 senses.)

I am glad we can be aware that this element exists. Then all the options of what we are endowed with, which does not include add ons such as belief or disbelief, are on the table. That provides a more comprehensive adequacy to set about upon individual paths or priorities…with a more complete perspective. Sort of like an uncommon common sense.

Unused, it is like the crated Ark of The Covenant (first Indiana Jones movie) sitting in a warehouse of similar looking crates, lost in inventory.

In order to make the world a better place, the first, the best, most accurate purpose in my opinion, is to know oneself, chiefly the part that is simplicity.

Alban, you are doing the same thing here that the preachers of conventional religions do – presuming to tell other people what the purpose of their lives should be. I will create my own purpose, thank you very much, and I reject the idea that anybody else can or should be allowed to impose a purpose on me.

If you find your purpose in getting to know yourself, fine. You can find fulfillment in navel-gazing if you want, makes no difference to me. But that’s not adequate for my life. I have other priorities.

In order to make the world a better place, the first, the best, most accurate purpose in my opinion, is to know oneself, chiefly the part that is simplicity. Not created. Just the power source which also has dimensions to it that potentially amplify the quality of life, if utilized.

If that part goes unknown or just rationalized in the many ways we have gotten used to, then our other purpose(s) lack accurate perspective.

For instance our status quo is tied into planned obsolescence and monopoly ‘money’. We are governed by a limited small picture viewpoint that makes little sense for significant solutions. Not that our created purposes are bad, they are are simply missing a greater perspective providing a greater understanding of the actual value and opportunity of life.

We have gotten use to settling for less to say the least. “Loss of our humanity” is a more chilling notion in spite of scientific and technological advancement. It may be our last ditch best effort to consider as a race of people what is missing that can turn this whole substandard mentality around. We definitely know what our created purposes have not brought.

So where is the last most obvious but most ignored place to look? Finding that, our creativity, our other purposes take on promising long forgotten possibilities. Ambition and creativity within the discovered primary purpose opens glorious and fulfilling opportunity.

We must exist in order to have a purpose, so purpose comes after existence. Perhaps you would prefer purpose comes after birth.

Glad I am sitting down. I never thought for a second…our parents did lie to us as it was custom…it was not to indoctrinate but to keep a ‘magic’ alive that could fan the fire of hope (they not knowing the magic was alive already within inside) Hope is realizable in the ultimate sense. Religion despite its politics has been successful in fanning the fire of hope but delays it unnecessarily. Now is critical.

Combine focused hope with your high powered microscope and your ‘show me’ intentioned skepticism with a sprinkle of sincerity and voila, there’s some meat to chew on…unless you just got caught up in some nostalgia…or it was a typo…

Would the “accident” suggest for us all to get along or prompt us into calculated chaos, throwing the ‘mud’ of earth up against or down into the rocks and seeing what sticks? You essentially suggest we are merely experimenters. In a world without purpose or meaning, science would win. But when science invented the nuclear bomb, sincere regret and concern was much more apparent than in the small circles of giddy back-slapping scientists. (and government leaders)

So given the concession of an “accident” for the sake of argument, does our advancement give us the chance amongst ourselves to live in peace and harmony, or does it create an environment where only the strong shall survive and or thrive?

If yes, that’s no better than the animal kingdom. At least we don’t eat each other now.

Why then in your world of random good (TVs,cars,houses+computers) amidst the general ignorance and atrocity are many ordinary people so kind, so helpful, so hopeful? Must be random in the book of cag. So yes, in your perspective , no meaning or purpose.

I suggest there is an ingredient that is much more practical (than magical in a skeptic’s view) that we are all born with. It’s not separate or an addition. When utilized it yields joy and gratitude, a feeling not random but pervasive. From that feeling a perspective of not presently KNOWN VALUE emerges. Our names or labels for that may be inadequate or the vocabulary has no equivalent to use.

Since it has been historically proven not to be our brain, could it be something else in our nature, in our potential we just don’t see? Not something which is invisible, imaginary or the byproduct of random guesswork. A specific ingredient that if found and utilized could possibly be the most important asset we have overlooked or completely misinterpreted.

Direct observation is only possible within a constant if the instrument of awareness in this case, the individual chooses to tap into that constant. Many references have been made in the new testament to the limitations of the physically blind and deaf. Chuck belief and or imagination on the following statement. This all pervasive constant can be seen and heard by the physically blind and deaf.

This is one of the items I referred to as being taken out of context (ON PURPOSE) at the Nicene Conventions (there were 2 conventions) The underlying purpose of the conventions was to polish a turd. You are right about that BUT ONLY AFTER eradicating any reference they could find to the direct observation of “The Kingdom of God” within. That is how “the mystery of faith” was created and glorified. Presto. (25 yrs? between conventions)

Imagine our world now where the possibility of direct observation of what has no beginning and no end within, didn’t have to overcome a fable of resurrection and redemption. Endorsed murder for a “reason” they could not see would not sit well in resulting history fabricated to be absent of any apparent direct access to human beings’ only independent, indestructible asset.

The implications of this humongous crime/insult to humanity in addition to the (temporary) loss of the biggest chunk of humanity extends into skepticism. Without the fable, many more Christian background skeptics would begin in the challenge of their ability to find “god” vs the challenge of(?)reveling in commiseration of “god” not existing.

Direct observation internally is just another mind game, subject to the same errors as any other unreplicable activity.

The purpose and meaning of life for an amoeba is survival of the species, for a lion it is survival of the species. Why should the life of a more advanced life form be any different? It certainly is not to be the slave of some imaginary tyrant, even if some people choose to enslave themselves. We are an accident of evolution, no purpose or meaning necessary. Human existence does not require houses or TVs or cars or computers. People that create those and other modern conveniences were not born for the purpose of creating those objects, nor does making such tools give meaning. I find the question of meaning or purpose has neither meaning or purpose other than to keep philosophers from screwing up other aspects of life.

Because this is a living experience, inspired and shown by a living person to living people, there was a great deal of travel required prior to 1998 for the giving party and the receiving ones. The same social and economic challenges have existed for thousands of years in this pursuit. With technology replacing a great deal of the travel complication that existed to receive ‘Knowledge’ it is a much simpler mission to pursue and more private (free-er from judgement) to a great degree. I was often grilled with contemptuous scrutiny, “why are you going there?”

To answer the next part you don’t have to be a history buff. However ‘Knowledge’ tends to inspire surgical reading of religious writing. When someone- usually one at a time, as I’ve come to understand, states something akin to — what you are looking for, –the meaning and the purpose of life OR something like the kingdom of god, IS WITHIN YOU,… then offers to show it within individuals,… and then does; according to the detail that is much easier to see when you know what to look for in the descriptions, the show is or was on, as the case may be. Those distinctions however, come after the fact

There are a few savory nuggets left in the new testament that the Nicene Conventions could not edit out or revamp because the subtleties escaped their attention. So there was no committee of Jesus and not several authors of a myth called then “The Kingdom of God”. Just one Giver/Show-er and several receivers, many of whom in their writings are misquoted or what they said, taken out of context.

The Betty Crocker committee was in effect, The Nicene Conventions. For me, direct observation internally and externally is preferable to group interpretation, legends and distortion of the simplest truth. Then it is easier to navigate in between fact and fiction.