Comments on: Finding Yourself After De-converting

By: letselschade advocaten

letselschade advocaten — Thu, 09 Feb 2012 13:11:01 +0000

Ik zou moeten gaan hier met jou. Dat is niet een ding I normaal doen! Ik geniet van nemen genoegen met de het bestuderen van een submit die maken mensen denken. Ook , bedankt voor het toestaan het toelaat dat ik commentaar !

By: Bryan

Bryan — Sat, 06 Jun 2009 06:09:35 +0000

Welcome to the reality of life. Its very interesting to read how someone feels and thinks after waking up from religious brain washing.

Do you feel that you have been manipulated? Do you feel sympathy for your friends that have the same thought process you had a year ago?

By: lauradee24

lauradee24 — Sun, 22 Feb 2009 18:23:26 +0000

Me, too.

I find myself newly reinvented–from my thoughts to my career. I like the change.

(Though it does have its moments.)

By: sarahpoliticaljunkie

sarahpoliticaljunkie — Fri, 13 Feb 2009 23:29:17 +0000

Josh, I have struggled with relgion my whole life. I enjoyed reading your blogs and I plan on using one of your thoughts to blog on myspace about. I have found the older I get…the ones who are more enlightened, humantarianistic, kind-hearted, intelligent, non-judgemental are non-Christians ironically enough. I agree that Christianity has become a bourgeosie greek fraternity with exclusive mebershio and if you don’t subscribe to the sheep movement then you are excluded. I think that religion is just silly. The myth is over. It has its placed with charitiable organizations, but on an individual basis, or a policy driven basis people need to just quite. Evolution? Hello can’t believe that this is really a debate. But whatever. I am glad you broke free from the opressive chains..NOt that walking as Jesus did is a bad thing. I live my life modeled after Jesus. I believe in WWJD..but Jesus the man…not the divine.

By: TitforTat

TitforTat — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:53:25 +0000

So I guess the next question would be “Are you looking for a way to look at the Creator that is not contradicted by the evidence?” or “Do you want to know the truth about the Creator?”(Josh)

I think if there is a Creative force it is ultimately mysterious to us in this life. So if I am to relate to it, wouldnt the best way be, through the Creation itself? So for me that means you and me and the world around us. There are very tangible, verifiable ways to determine whether or not its “real”. If I was to use a religious(christian) term that may be appropriate, maybe Ecclesia would fit One body that the whole world is part of. Hey even science tried to get the idea of the world being an organism, The Gaia principle.

By: LeoPardus

LeoPardus — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 17:45:29 +0000

FSRT:

Great! Having the lines of communication open with the lady is soooo important. Good on ya, and good on Mrs. FSRT.

By: freestyleroadtrip

freestyleroadtrip — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 16:36:54 +0000

Just to update…Today is much better. Had really good discussion with my wife last night in a way we hadn’t really talked about our God beliefs before. We both expressed disillusionment with how the fundamentalism that we grew up with and from which we have worked so hard to break free from still has a grip at times; how the fundamentalism that we grew up with really doesn’t deliver what it promises because the same evils in the rest of the world are present in the same percentages in that fundamental world; how the fundamentalism that we grew up with then really could be seen to make us worse because we have the same problems but have a smoke screen to hide behind which makes us look all good and holy but really results in a lie.

I think yesterday was about finally being in a place where I am not clinging to some of that fundy tradition and letting go to have the freedom to look at things from a less biased paradigm.

By: Josh

Josh — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:38:35 +0000

Oh, and…

“I think its important that atheists and faith based people try to stay away from absolutes, unless you can prove youre absolutely right.”

… absolutely

By: Josh

Josh — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 15:22:28 +0000

Oh certainly not, TitforTat I hope I didn’t mean to imply that. I’m simply expressing that for me, at least, losing that feeling of “God working out all things for good for those who love him…” was gone.

“There are other ways to look at it though.”

Oh certainly. So I guess the next question would be “Are you looking for a way to look at the Creator that is not contradicted by the evidence?” or “Do you want to know the truth about the Creator?”

Correct me if I am wrong, but these seem to me to be completely different questions.

By: TitforTat

TitforTat — Tue, 10 Feb 2009 11:04:48 +0000

Josh

Just because of your deconversion doesnt mean that there is no creator. It just means that how you once tried to define it didnt work. There are other ways to look at it though.
Ways that include personal responsibility mixed with faith in some things unseen. I think its important that atheists and faith based people try to stay away from absolutes, unless you can prove youre absolutely right.