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		<title>By: Kiyah</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/05/03/de-christianizing-after-de-conversion/#comment-41371</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Mar 2010 17:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Old post I know, but I just wanted to weigh in a bit on my trek through the archives :)

My parents are vaguely-practising pagans, so when I lost my Christian faith I went what I call &quot;culturally pagan&quot;. Yule cards, solstice bread, &quot;Blessed Yule&quot;, the lot. (I also developed a collection of Buddhas, but that&#039;s probably beside the point!) Dor some reason I find it comforting to have traditions and special days to look forward to, as my partner and I are pretty much alone with my cat and I can make up whatever traditions I like :)

When people sneeze, I too go with &quot;Gesundheit&quot;, or &quot;Yeched&quot;, which is Breton and means health too. It surprises people, and I guess I have an attention-seeking streak that likes that. Ah well...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Old post I know, but I just wanted to weigh in a bit on my trek through the archives <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>My parents are vaguely-practising pagans, so when I lost my Christian faith I went what I call &#8220;culturally pagan&#8221;. Yule cards, solstice bread, &#8220;Blessed Yule&#8221;, the lot. (I also developed a collection of Buddhas, but that&#8217;s probably beside the point!) Dor some reason I find it comforting to have traditions and special days to look forward to, as my partner and I are pretty much alone with my cat and I can make up whatever traditions I like <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>When people sneeze, I too go with &#8220;Gesundheit&#8221;, or &#8220;Yeched&#8221;, which is Breton and means health too. It surprises people, and I guess I have an attention-seeking streak that likes that. Ah well&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: George</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/05/03/de-christianizing-after-de-conversion/#comment-37228</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 20:14:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Roy, I&#039;m back.  A new and improved version.

Slapped around a bit.  I did go over the top a bit.

The de conversion monitor is fair though.

I had no right to get so impassioned, but that is me.
Passion is not the issue, but how you present Christ is.

I was wrong.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Roy, I&#8217;m back.  A new and improved version.</p>
<p>Slapped around a bit.  I did go over the top a bit.</p>
<p>The de conversion monitor is fair though.</p>
<p>I had no right to get so impassioned, but that is me.<br />
Passion is not the issue, but how you present Christ is.</p>
<p>I was wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/05/03/de-christianizing-after-de-conversion/#comment-37221</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 05:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have the same problem with birthdays in general, not just Jesus&#039;.

Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses are notorious for not participating in all that stuff.  I visited a Kingdom Hall once.  The people were very nice and I found some of their beliefs fascinating, but they were far to regimented and legalistic for my taste.

Speaking of Jehovah&#039;s Witnesses, I was having a conversation with a neighbor over the Witnesses coming to my house periodically.  This lady does mission work in Colombia and Brazil.  She got really freaked out about the fact that the Witnesses do not believe Jesus is REALLY the son of God and that they don&#039;t believe in hell (they are annihilationists).  I guess in her book, they (and I) will be at the front of the line, since God must prove to us that it REALLY does exist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have the same problem with birthdays in general, not just Jesus&#8217;.</p>
<p>Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses are notorious for not participating in all that stuff.  I visited a Kingdom Hall once.  The people were very nice and I found some of their beliefs fascinating, but they were far to regimented and legalistic for my taste.</p>
<p>Speaking of Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses, I was having a conversation with a neighbor over the Witnesses coming to my house periodically.  This lady does mission work in Colombia and Brazil.  She got really freaked out about the fact that the Witnesses do not believe Jesus is REALLY the son of God and that they don&#8217;t believe in hell (they are annihilationists).  I guess in her book, they (and I) will be at the front of the line, since God must prove to us that it REALLY does exist.</p>
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		<title>By: Mystery Porcupine</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/05/03/de-christianizing-after-de-conversion/#comment-37218</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mystery Porcupine]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Oct 2009 03:39:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am REALLY trying to avoid celebrating Christmas this year. I would love to just celebrate life or love or the snow clouds or something! Plus, the children in my extended family have so much STUFF that presentS are just fluff to them, and most of the time they are not even thankful. So if I go visit my family, I have to buy a lot of stuff that no one appreciates, then go make it through sermons and songs that make me feel nauseated. It is a consumer holiday wrapped up in religion that makes me feel ill. UGH. Let&#039;s hope I can avoid it. The only thing that really pulls me to go visit is my old grandma...I know it would make her day to see me. But then I will have to participate in all the rest of that stuff! I am thinking of opting to go visit a week after Christmas.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am REALLY trying to avoid celebrating Christmas this year. I would love to just celebrate life or love or the snow clouds or something! Plus, the children in my extended family have so much STUFF that presentS are just fluff to them, and most of the time they are not even thankful. So if I go visit my family, I have to buy a lot of stuff that no one appreciates, then go make it through sermons and songs that make me feel nauseated. It is a consumer holiday wrapped up in religion that makes me feel ill. UGH. Let&#8217;s hope I can avoid it. The only thing that really pulls me to go visit is my old grandma&#8230;I know it would make her day to see me. But then I will have to participate in all the rest of that stuff! I am thinking of opting to go visit a week after Christmas.</p>
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		<title>By: Roy</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/05/03/de-christianizing-after-de-conversion/#comment-37208</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Roy]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:55:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Tyler,

I have a Wiccan friend who says &quot;Bless You&quot; when people sneeze.  Whenever everybody in the group knows his religion, I usually facetiously say &quot;Be careful which blessings you accept!&quot;

:-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tyler,</p>
<p>I have a Wiccan friend who says &#8220;Bless You&#8221; when people sneeze.  Whenever everybody in the group knows his religion, I usually facetiously say &#8220;Be careful which blessings you accept!&#8221;<br />
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		<title>By: Tyler</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/05/03/de-christianizing-after-de-conversion/#comment-37207</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Tyler]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Oct 2009 20:45:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Too many comments to read. But personally I like to add non-existent in the middle of a blaspheme whenever I let one slip, or whenever someone says it I echo with the non existent part.

Ex. friend says, &quot;Jesus Christ!&quot;
I mumble, &quot;Jesus non-existent Christ.&quot;

Similarly, I put a &quot;ne&quot; in acronyms like &quot;omg&quot;

&quot;OMneG! that&#039;s so stupid!&quot;

But usually I just avoid it all together and try to make my personal diction more fruitful.

As far as sneezes go, one of my favorite things that I&#039;ve heard, but never been in a bad enough mood to do is say &quot;no thank you&quot; when someone tells me &quot;bless you&quot; Then the believer can get pissed off but not do anything because you said it politely lol.

As for christmas goes, I take a step backwards and celebrate yule. Which is the same holiday, but part of my celebrations is telling believers why jesus would hate them for celebrating christmas]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too many comments to read. But personally I like to add non-existent in the middle of a blaspheme whenever I let one slip, or whenever someone says it I echo with the non existent part.</p>
<p>Ex. friend says, &#8220;Jesus Christ!&#8221;<br />
I mumble, &#8220;Jesus non-existent Christ.&#8221;</p>
<p>Similarly, I put a &#8220;ne&#8221; in acronyms like &#8220;omg&#8221;</p>
<p>&#8220;OMneG! that&#8217;s so stupid!&#8221;</p>
<p>But usually I just avoid it all together and try to make my personal diction more fruitful.</p>
<p>As far as sneezes go, one of my favorite things that I&#8217;ve heard, but never been in a bad enough mood to do is say &#8220;no thank you&#8221; when someone tells me &#8220;bless you&#8221; Then the believer can get pissed off but not do anything because you said it politely lol.</p>
<p>As for christmas goes, I take a step backwards and celebrate yule. Which is the same holiday, but part of my celebrations is telling believers why jesus would hate them for celebrating christmas</p>
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		<title>By: MB</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[MB]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Sep 2009 01:06:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[An atheist friend of mine likes to say &quot;I acknowledge your nasal discharge&quot; when people sneeze.  It is particularly funny if a believer has just said &quot;bless you.&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An atheist friend of mine likes to say &#8220;I acknowledge your nasal discharge&#8221; when people sneeze.  It is particularly funny if a believer has just said &#8220;bless you.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Konraden</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/05/03/de-christianizing-after-de-conversion/#comment-36618</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Konraden]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 02:11:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I&#039;m a fairly &quot;militant&quot; atheist as the fundies like to call me, but I haven&#039;t taken leaping steps to rid myself of social Christian influences. 

I like holidays, for the same reason you do: it&#039;s a time to get together with family. We can still celebrate holidays without having to make it religious. It&#039;s a cultural event, not a religious one.

I get sick pleasure from saying &quot;God dammit&quot; to those who are truly offended by my blasphemy. Aside from that, it&#039;s cultural.

The most anti-religious action I&#039;ve actually taken is using &quot;CE&quot; and &quot;BCE&quot; in dates rather than BC or AD. I&#039;m told Conservapedia was started after Wikipedia mandated the use of CE and BCE in all of its articles. I summarily used CE and BCE once I realized they weren&#039;t Christian. (Common Era for those that miss it.)

I&#039;m way off topic.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m a fairly &#8220;militant&#8221; atheist as the fundies like to call me, but I haven&#8217;t taken leaping steps to rid myself of social Christian influences. </p>
<p>I like holidays, for the same reason you do: it&#8217;s a time to get together with family. We can still celebrate holidays without having to make it religious. It&#8217;s a cultural event, not a religious one.</p>
<p>I get sick pleasure from saying &#8220;God dammit&#8221; to those who are truly offended by my blasphemy. Aside from that, it&#8217;s cultural.</p>
<p>The most anti-religious action I&#8217;ve actually taken is using &#8220;CE&#8221; and &#8220;BCE&#8221; in dates rather than BC or AD. I&#8217;m told Conservapedia was started after Wikipedia mandated the use of CE and BCE in all of its articles. I summarily used CE and BCE once I realized they weren&#8217;t Christian. (Common Era for those that miss it.)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m way off topic.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenn</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/05/03/de-christianizing-after-de-conversion/#comment-36606</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jenn]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 09:08:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I spoke with a long-time atheist once, and asked him what he thought about continuing to celebrate Christmas. He said that in his family, they still decorated a tree (pagan tradition, anyway, which I love to point out to Xians!) and enjoy giving gifts. For most, it&#039;s not about religion, anyway. I haven&#039;t had a tree for years but find that I miss that, and no longer believe that I&#039;ve got to quit enjoying holidays just because I&#039;ve realized that religion is ridiculous. I&#039;m going to decorate this year, though of course nothing religious! I&#039;ll never again celebrate Easter, though. (Coloring eggs was never THAT much fun; I just liked the candy.)

As for saying &quot;bless you&quot;, I still do it. I realize that it&#039;s pointless but it just seems like the polite thing to do. &quot;Gesundheit&quot; is a good substitute, as someone else mentioned.

RE: cursing, I do it. Christians HATE terms like &quot;Jesus H Christ&quot; and &quot;goddamnit&quot; because they believe them to be blasphemous. Perhaps it&#039;s immature, but that rather makes me want to say them even more. LOL. ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I spoke with a long-time atheist once, and asked him what he thought about continuing to celebrate Christmas. He said that in his family, they still decorated a tree (pagan tradition, anyway, which I love to point out to Xians!) and enjoy giving gifts. For most, it&#8217;s not about religion, anyway. I haven&#8217;t had a tree for years but find that I miss that, and no longer believe that I&#8217;ve got to quit enjoying holidays just because I&#8217;ve realized that religion is ridiculous. I&#8217;m going to decorate this year, though of course nothing religious! I&#8217;ll never again celebrate Easter, though. (Coloring eggs was never THAT much fun; I just liked the candy.)</p>
<p>As for saying &#8220;bless you&#8221;, I still do it. I realize that it&#8217;s pointless but it just seems like the polite thing to do. &#8220;Gesundheit&#8221; is a good substitute, as someone else mentioned.</p>
<p>RE: cursing, I do it. Christians HATE terms like &#8220;Jesus H Christ&#8221; and &#8220;goddamnit&#8221; because they believe them to be blasphemous. Perhaps it&#8217;s immature, but that rather makes me want to say them even more. LOL. <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nattybug</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Nattybug]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Sep 2009 15:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hi Neece! I just wanted to let you know that we celebrate the &quot;christmas&quot; season and the others as well, but as a family gathering. We don&#039;t add any christian flare to it. As a matter of fact, we talk to the kids about the origins of the holiday tree and what it symbolized ( decorating for bringing back spring etc) and we decorate it with snowflakes, darwin fish (I added that last year :D) and other cutesy frivolity. We discuss other peoples reasons for celebrating, but we use it as an excuse to connect with the rest of the family for the most part. I too, have a hard time trying to de-christianize my vocabulary and making sure we keep our lives purely secular. It&#039;s not easy with a hubby who likes the holiday foods and decor, lol. To be honest, there&#039;s nothing &quot;christian&quot; about the &quot;true&quot; reason for the season. Keep up the good work! 
:D]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Neece! I just wanted to let you know that we celebrate the &#8220;christmas&#8221; season and the others as well, but as a family gathering. We don&#8217;t add any christian flare to it. As a matter of fact, we talk to the kids about the origins of the holiday tree and what it symbolized ( decorating for bringing back spring etc) and we decorate it with snowflakes, darwin fish (I added that last year <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> ) and other cutesy frivolity. We discuss other peoples reasons for celebrating, but we use it as an excuse to connect with the rest of the family for the most part. I too, have a hard time trying to de-christianize my vocabulary and making sure we keep our lives purely secular. It&#8217;s not easy with a hubby who likes the holiday foods and decor, lol. To be honest, there&#8217;s nothing &#8220;christian&#8221; about the &#8220;true&#8221; reason for the season. Keep up the good work!  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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