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		<title>By: James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/07/26/overcoming-the-convert-everyone-mentality/#comment-39897</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Dec 2009 17:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The religious reich (of any faith) are always &quot;offended&quot;, sometimes violently, when anyone speaks the least disparagement of their faith.  But they cannot comprehend that non-believers can be offended by the constant barrage of &quot;get right with god&quot; and other religious &quot;witnessing&quot; rational people must endure on a daily basis.

I have no real problem with any religion as long as they don&#039;t try to force their beliefs on me by force of law or threat of violence.  These are the same thing as legal violence is not much different than physical violence.  It&#039;s often the  same, isn&#039;t it?

So, deists, go your own way, stop trying to brainwash my children and everyone around you and stay in your own fantasy world.  I promise to leave you alone as long as you grant me the same courtesy.  Until then, expect to catch hell from me in the same measure as you  deliver it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The religious reich (of any faith) are always &#8220;offended&#8221;, sometimes violently, when anyone speaks the least disparagement of their faith.  But they cannot comprehend that non-believers can be offended by the constant barrage of &#8220;get right with god&#8221; and other religious &#8220;witnessing&#8221; rational people must endure on a daily basis.</p>
<p>I have no real problem with any religion as long as they don&#8217;t try to force their beliefs on me by force of law or threat of violence.  These are the same thing as legal violence is not much different than physical violence.  It&#8217;s often the  same, isn&#8217;t it?</p>
<p>So, deists, go your own way, stop trying to brainwash my children and everyone around you and stay in your own fantasy world.  I promise to leave you alone as long as you grant me the same courtesy.  Until then, expect to catch hell from me in the same measure as you  deliver it.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/07/26/overcoming-the-convert-everyone-mentality/#comment-37045</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[All that said, George... I really feel for you. Sorry if we&#039;ve hurt you in some way that it would make you want to retaliate in such a hateful manner. I know the feeling of having something precious to you be attacked.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All that said, George&#8230; I really feel for you. Sorry if we&#8217;ve hurt you in some way that it would make you want to retaliate in such a hateful manner. I know the feeling of having something precious to you be attacked.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/07/26/overcoming-the-convert-everyone-mentality/#comment-37044</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:52:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;Sure this is going nowhere, but Josh, your post proves you need mental healt care, you are one sick pup.&lt;/em&gt;

Can we create a &quot;best quotes&quot; section on this website, in addition to a &quot;Christian Hatemail&quot; section? I just feel like that quote by GeorgeZ belongs somewhere in a hall of fame.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Sure this is going nowhere, but Josh, your post proves you need mental healt care, you are one sick pup.</em></p>
<p>Can we create a &#8220;best quotes&#8221; section on this website, in addition to a &#8220;Christian Hatemail&#8221; section? I just feel like that quote by GeorgeZ belongs somewhere in a hall of fame.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/07/26/overcoming-the-convert-everyone-mentality/#comment-37043</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:46:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;em&gt;What other people believe is their business, not mine.&lt;/em&gt;

Unless, of course, they make it my business: like you have.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>What other people believe is their business, not mine.</em></p>
<p>Unless, of course, they make it my business: like you have.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/07/26/overcoming-the-convert-everyone-mentality/#comment-37042</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Joshua]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 17:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I don&#039;t know what a healt is, but I do know that people who are riled up tend to misspell things quite a bit and make aimless jabs into the dark.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know what a healt is, but I do know that people who are riled up tend to misspell things quite a bit and make aimless jabs into the dark.</p>
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		<title>By: GeorgeZ</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/07/26/overcoming-the-convert-everyone-mentality/#comment-37025</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[GeorgeZ]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2009 11:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sure this is going nowhere, but Josh, your post proves you need mental healt care, you are one sick pup.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure this is going nowhere, but Josh, your post proves you need mental healt care, you are one sick pup.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/07/26/overcoming-the-convert-everyone-mentality/#comment-36313</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Rachel]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;In many ways, I feel like some of the Christian commenters on this blog are doing this. They are here to “feel out” why people are leaving the faith, to get a sense of the changes in culture that are causing the church to lose members.&lt;cite&gt;

I wonder if all of the motivations for commenting on this blog are simply &quot;to feel out&quot; why people are leaving Christianity.  I think the reasoning behind the questions is to find a way to plead with you to return.  That being said, I think many de-cons have no desire to return and many Christians find that to be tragic.  And so, we both find each other misguided and mistaken.  

Just don&#039;t forget that we are commanded to plead with you to turn to Christ.  Sometimes I think it is hard for Christians to see their God torn down to such a degree and not respond by trying to defend Him. (and in one sense, themselves)  

 Just a thought. :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>In many ways, I feel like some of the Christian commenters on this blog are doing this. They are here to “feel out” why people are leaving the faith, to get a sense of the changes in culture that are causing the church to lose members.</cite><cite></p>
<p>I wonder if all of the motivations for commenting on this blog are simply &#8220;to feel out&#8221; why people are leaving Christianity.  I think the reasoning behind the questions is to find a way to plead with you to return.  That being said, I think many de-cons have no desire to return and many Christians find that to be tragic.  And so, we both find each other misguided and mistaken.  </p>
<p>Just don&#8217;t forget that we are commanded to plead with you to turn to Christ.  Sometimes I think it is hard for Christians to see their God torn down to such a degree and not respond by trying to defend Him. (and in one sense, themselves)  </p>
<p> Just a thought. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </cite></p>
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		<title>By: Jeffrey</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/07/26/overcoming-the-convert-everyone-mentality/#comment-36155</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jeffrey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 18:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Josh,

It was actually your post this morning that inspired this comment, but this one seemed like a more appropriate place to leave it.

Life as an ex-Christian is much more healthy and enjoyable once you accept that some people are wrong, and that&#039;s it&#039;s okay that they&#039;re wrong.  Before I accepted this, I kept on ending up like one of &lt;a href=&quot;http://xkcd.com/386/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;xkcd&#039;s many greats&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>It was actually your post this morning that inspired this comment, but this one seemed like a more appropriate place to leave it.</p>
<p>Life as an ex-Christian is much more healthy and enjoyable once you accept that some people are wrong, and that&#8217;s it&#8217;s okay that they&#8217;re wrong.  Before I accepted this, I kept on ending up like one of <a href="http://xkcd.com/386/" rel="nofollow">xkcd&#8217;s many greats</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Oz</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/07/26/overcoming-the-convert-everyone-mentality/#comment-35569</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Oz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 22:45:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ha ha ha brilliant!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ha ha ha brilliant!</p>
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		<title>By: Church Man Joe</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2009/07/26/overcoming-the-convert-everyone-mentality/#comment-35424</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Church Man Joe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2009 13:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Church Man Joe

My name is Joe – that you should know
if you went to the weekend show.
The show called church, where we get fed
spiritual stuff, all Spirit led.

I go to church most every week,
appeasing God so He won’t freak.
If I don’t go, there’s Hell to pay,
not just from God, but guilt will stay.
Others will judge and reject me
because of my complacency.

But I do go, am never late,
making it when they pass the plate.
Giving to church — a gift to God,
Give ten percent — I smile and nod.
Give ten percent, the O.T. states.
We’re in the New, but it’s church rates.
Man I hope that makes God happy,
because I’m in debt and all nappy.
But pastor said I would get blessed
above and beyond, it’s my best.

Now it’s time for me to sing.
My songs to God sound amazing.
I raise my arms, antenna sticks,
all to get my spiritual fix.
This song sounds like brainwashing chant;
Wish it would end — it’s like he can’t!
The worship guy is in a loop,
Now the song is soundin’ like poop!
Stand up, sit down, leader will say,
I don’t know why, but I obey.

I just lost an hour of my life.
Time to preach, n’ cut like a knife.
Pastor is mad, yellin’ at all
for all their sins, and Adam’s fall.
Man, I feel real sick and dirty,
Maybe I’ll pray to feel purty.
I close my eyes and fold my hands.
And if I don’t? Can’t take that chance.
God might see my poor church manners,
For posture certainly matters.
Even my clothes God is judging,
Gotta dress up, for He is watching.

OK, now it is time to pray.
I bow my head while I say,

“Dear God, it is not about me.
This day for You, I hope You see.
I went through all this church this day,
just so that you would get Your way.
I listened real good and got fed
by the pastor, who’s Spirit led.
God I’m so glad I got learn,
I even feel my conscience burn.”

I think I’m better now this day,
compared to those who, in bed, lay.
While I drove my righteous self home,
I realized that I’m all alone.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Church Man Joe</p>
<p>My name is Joe – that you should know<br />
if you went to the weekend show.<br />
The show called church, where we get fed<br />
spiritual stuff, all Spirit led.</p>
<p>I go to church most every week,<br />
appeasing God so He won’t freak.<br />
If I don’t go, there’s Hell to pay,<br />
not just from God, but guilt will stay.<br />
Others will judge and reject me<br />
because of my complacency.</p>
<p>But I do go, am never late,<br />
making it when they pass the plate.<br />
Giving to church — a gift to God,<br />
Give ten percent — I smile and nod.<br />
Give ten percent, the O.T. states.<br />
We’re in the New, but it’s church rates.<br />
Man I hope that makes God happy,<br />
because I’m in debt and all nappy.<br />
But pastor said I would get blessed<br />
above and beyond, it’s my best.</p>
<p>Now it’s time for me to sing.<br />
My songs to God sound amazing.<br />
I raise my arms, antenna sticks,<br />
all to get my spiritual fix.<br />
This song sounds like brainwashing chant;<br />
Wish it would end — it’s like he can’t!<br />
The worship guy is in a loop,<br />
Now the song is soundin’ like poop!<br />
Stand up, sit down, leader will say,<br />
I don’t know why, but I obey.</p>
<p>I just lost an hour of my life.<br />
Time to preach, n’ cut like a knife.<br />
Pastor is mad, yellin’ at all<br />
for all their sins, and Adam’s fall.<br />
Man, I feel real sick and dirty,<br />
Maybe I’ll pray to feel purty.<br />
I close my eyes and fold my hands.<br />
And if I don’t? Can’t take that chance.<br />
God might see my poor church manners,<br />
For posture certainly matters.<br />
Even my clothes God is judging,<br />
Gotta dress up, for He is watching.</p>
<p>OK, now it is time to pray.<br />
I bow my head while I say,</p>
<p>“Dear God, it is not about me.<br />
This day for You, I hope You see.<br />
I went through all this church this day,<br />
just so that you would get Your way.<br />
I listened real good and got fed<br />
by the pastor, who’s Spirit led.<br />
God I’m so glad I got learn,<br />
I even feel my conscience burn.”</p>
<p>I think I’m better now this day,<br />
compared to those who, in bed, lay.<br />
While I drove my righteous self home,<br />
I realized that I’m all alone.</p>
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