Comments on: seek and ye shall find…. but what?

By: demotivator

demotivator — Mon, 14 Nov 2011 13:46:18 +0000

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By: GCU Dancer on the Midway - Link blog: religion, christianity, de-conversion, politics

Tue, 08 Dec 2009 22:29:12 +0000

[...] for religion. There's no pleasing some people. The letters are good, anyway.seek and ye shall find…. but what?“If you REALLY had been a Christian you would have never de-converted.” vs the observation that [...]

By: mark

mark — Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:02:14 +0000

The church has done an excellent job with bait and switch. Claiming grace yet shaming you for not understanding and living in that grace. God wants you to have an abundant life, if you don’t have one its because your a rebellious idiot. Grace-blame-shame-grace-blame-shame etc….

By: Joshua

Joshua — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 01:17:04 +0000

The ultimate irony would be if the actual paragon of spiritual maturity is atheism.

This thought amuses me to no end.

What if God, in His infinite wisdom, decided to create a self-sustaining universe. After all, a holy grail among men is a machine that can sustain itself. Well, guess what, my God did it.

So you know what? My God is more powerful than Yahweh, because my God can create a universe that sustains itself.

My daddy can beat up your daddy.

Religious debates sound eerily similar to some things I heard in the sandbox as a child…

Seems like the most mature individuals are the ones capable of moving past all of that.

By: Quester

Quester — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:17:20 +0000

The Romans thought he was. Depends on how you defend our terms. *grin*

By: Roy

Roy — Sat, 17 Oct 2009 00:09:13 +0000

Yes I agree Bryant. The ultimate irony would be if the actual paragon of spiritual maturity is atheism. Was Jesus an atheist? It’s something to think about.

By: Bryant

Bryant — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 21:44:49 +0000

In response to Roy:

After reading your thoughts, it seems you might throw Jesus out all together and just be a good person on your own (not to devalue an iconic moral figure).

By: Roy

Roy — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:56:01 +0000

Matthew,

I just emailed my brother (a somewhat traditional Christian) an email asking a few questions:

Can a holy book be set up for worship and become idolatrous?

Can a particular concept of a deity be set up for worship and become idolatrous?

If so, how does one go about holding the *correct* concept in mind for said worship so as not to be idolatrous?

Could it be that *any* attempt at conceptualizing a deity of any sort and worshipping it is idolatrous?

I can’t wait to see what answers, if any, I get back.

By: Matthew

Matthew — Fri, 16 Oct 2009 18:51:07 +0000

I know for myself, I couldn’t stomach the contradiction of it all. I was told our modern society was decaying and wretched and to question everything I was taught in schools that didn’t fit within the bible. Yet when I did such things, suddenly everything I was being taught made sense, but the bible no longer did, and when I attempted to make sense of the bible by asking questions which may make a Christian uncomfortable (a child asking something as simple as “why isnt god around anymore?” can elicit such a response) I was met with a brick wall and cyclic reasoning, ie the bible has every answer and never contradicts itself, yet it doesn’t and it does.

By: Roy

Roy — Fri, 09 Oct 2009 14:37:17 +0000

Think Josh has you confused with a Christian who believes the Bible is truely God’s word. You best correct him, Roy.

My apology to Quester for my two consecutive short comments, but I think this one is important. George, I don’t think Joshua is confused at all. You may be confused. I *am* a Christian, but obviously not the same type that you are.