Ubi said it dude. You have assigned credit completely incorrectly. THINK man. If you’d been around 50 years ago and had your condition, you’d just be dead now. The ONLY reason you aren’t dead is thanks to all the people Ubi mentioned. So why the flying fuck are you crediting an invisible being who has permitted untold 1000′s to die of the very same condition before you?

If your god exists, he apparently let you come down with kidney failure in the first place. It was the efforts of human beings that saved you. Think about who should really get your thanks.

cag- I don’t see how the first ten words of genesis leads you to conclude that the Bible claims the earth is in the center of the universe. Or are you saying Christians are completely ignorant because a hypothesis now seems to tell us we were just accidents and have no real purpose in life.

As for evidence that God exists, I will never convince anyone who does not want to hear that He does. There will never be enough evidence for that individual. But I will tell you this one thing that you may or may not want to hear. In February of this year I was diagnosed with stage five ureter reflux or end stage kidney failure. I was immediately put on hemodialysis in the ICU. After many weeks I was trained to do home dialysis and was able to leave the hospital. Five months later I got a transplant. That is unheard of. I was out of the hospital in four days. That is unheard of.
I was only sick for a few days before I was diagnosed. With my numbers the way they were my doctors did not understand how I was still alive. If I have gone a few more days without treatment I could have had a stroke or a heart attack. I am under 18 years old.
It is only by God grace that I am still here and able to serve him with the rest of my life. People all over the world prayed and are praying for me and I am beyond grateful.
This may seem like just a jumble of good time and luck to you but it is not. I am alive and that is only by His grace.

I’m very glad I ran into this site. Though some of you may just want me to buzz off. I’m sorry you feel that way. But good conversation can come from anywhere.

To the christian believers, do you really believe that the earth is the center of the universe? That is what your “holy” book claims in the first ten words as above.

You have to feel your way between the lines to get to the heart of the matter… I recommend studying the historical-grammatical context of this conversation and I am sure you will be able to find ways to make it applicable to 21st century life.

Goodness, where’s my coffee… I have some programming to do…

Only in a meta-narrative sense. Yes, if you look at a long line of narratives, the emerging story about them all can be consistent passing from one to another. But that’s no different than the Iliad and the Odyssey Aesop’s fable or Fairy Tales (literally, not facetiously) or any other tradition. So, yes, it is “true” that the tortoise beat the hare insofar as tradition points to a relatively consistent consensus of that “fact”. But was there ever anthropomorphic animals that engaged in a race? And did a tortoise in fact reach the finishing point earlier than a hare?

Clearly not. Of course, that story was meant to teach a certain perspective and to influence culture. If you want to cast religion in that light, fine go ahead. I’ll put Christ on the same level as Achilles or Odysseus and Paul on the same level as Aesop. And I’ll put the sermon on the mount or Jesus’ parables on the same level as any other narrative used to make points. But any higher claim to truth is unsupported rubbish.