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		<title>By: Neil C. Reinhardt</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2010/12/31/why-we-leave/#comment-57347</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil C. Reinhardt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2012 01:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Well Cag

The odds are you are not going to like the second part of this.

Methinks the reason Skhan pushes the beliefs in childish and imaginary gods is because he was indoctrinated as baby, child and teenager to do so. And I very strongly doubt that Skhan either realizes he/she was programmed to do so in the first place much less, is still programmed to believe things which break the laws of common sense, logic, nature and science.


While I am an Agnostic Athiest Activist, and have been an Atheist Activist ro over half of a century, thinking I am a &quot;typical Atheist&quot; would be more insulting to me than being called a Christian.  


This as my far more extensive experience in dealing with Atheists than most others have, prove to me, that very sadly, MOST Athiests ONLY use Logic, Knowledge and Critical Thinking skills on the subject of there being one, or more, gods.   


On any other subject, most Atheists are as apt to deny any facts which prove they are wrong as are Christians on things like Evolution, (which is true) if Homosexuala are born being born being Homosexuals (they are) and if abortion is wrong. (It is not,) 


Only at least Christians have a very valid reason to deny facts as they were, from the time they are babies, programmed to deny any facts which may prove them be wrong.  This while any Atheists who deny facts (like about the Iraq War and the fool who is our president) have NO intelligent logical or rational reason to do so.

As Forrest Gump said: 

&quot;Stupid is as Stupid Does&quot;

Denying Facts is STUPID!

So while those who deny fact after fact may not actually be stupid, for all intents &amp; purposes, Fact Deniers ARE STUPID!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well Cag</p>
<p>The odds are you are not going to like the second part of this.</p>
<p>Methinks the reason Skhan pushes the beliefs in childish and imaginary gods is because he was indoctrinated as baby, child and teenager to do so. And I very strongly doubt that Skhan either realizes he/she was programmed to do so in the first place much less, is still programmed to believe things which break the laws of common sense, logic, nature and science.</p>
<p>While I am an Agnostic Athiest Activist, and have been an Atheist Activist ro over half of a century, thinking I am a &#8220;typical Atheist&#8221; would be more insulting to me than being called a Christian.  </p>
<p>This as my far more extensive experience in dealing with Atheists than most others have, prove to me, that very sadly, MOST Athiests ONLY use Logic, Knowledge and Critical Thinking skills on the subject of there being one, or more, gods.   </p>
<p>On any other subject, most Atheists are as apt to deny any facts which prove they are wrong as are Christians on things like Evolution, (which is true) if Homosexuala are born being born being Homosexuals (they are) and if abortion is wrong. (It is not,) </p>
<p>Only at least Christians have a very valid reason to deny facts as they were, from the time they are babies, programmed to deny any facts which may prove them be wrong.  This while any Atheists who deny facts (like about the Iraq War and the fool who is our president) have NO intelligent logical or rational reason to do so.</p>
<p>As Forrest Gump said: </p>
<p>&#8220;Stupid is as Stupid Does&#8221;</p>
<p>Denying Facts is STUPID!</p>
<p>So while those who deny fact after fact may not actually be stupid, for all intents &amp; purposes, Fact Deniers ARE STUPID!</p>
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		<title>By: cag</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2010/12/31/why-we-leave/#comment-57342</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 23:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Skhan #20, why are you wasting your life promoting imaginary beings?

True, being called a christian would be the worst insult that anyone could lay on me.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Skhan #20, why are you wasting your life promoting imaginary beings?</p>
<p>True, being called a christian would be the worst insult that anyone could lay on me.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil C. Reinhardt</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2010/12/31/why-we-leave/#comment-57336</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil C. Reinhardt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:23:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[my error, I replied to the wrong post and I forgot to read the d=comments befor my posting.

MY BAD!

I AM SORRY!
 
I APOLOGIZE FOR MY ERROR

Neil]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>my error, I replied to the wrong post and I forgot to read the d=comments befor my posting.</p>
<p>MY BAD!</p>
<p>I AM SORRY!</p>
<p>I APOLOGIZE FOR MY ERROR</p>
<p>Neil</p>
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		<title>By: Neil C. Reinhardt</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2010/12/31/why-we-leave/#comment-57335</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil C. Reinhardt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 20:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[First, I am a 77 year old Agnostic Atheist Activest who has been an Atheist for 68 of my 77 years adn a Atheist Activiest for over half of a centry. As I&#039;m not only many times more experienced than are most my age, and smarter than 97.5% of the world, I many times more knowledge than most.


Second,  While many, many Millions of Former Christians are now Atheists. most Christians are so indoctrinated into their religions as babies, children, teenagers the odds are they will remian programmed until they die.

After all as the Catholic Church says and it seems all religions believe, &quot;Give me a Child until the Age of Seven and they are Mine FOREVER!&quot; 


What happens to those religious people who &quot;See the Light&quot; and lets &quot;the TRUTH set them FREE&quot; is some happens or some one says, or they read something which causes them to OPEN their mind and to begin questioning their religious beliefs.


They MAY realize the ONLY reason they believe there is only One god and why they are a Jew, a Moslem or a Christian
is SIMLY DUE TO WHO RAISED THEM.


And they MAY realize the ONLY reason they believe there is only One god and not MANY. MANY gods is because they were
not raised by Hindus!  (or any of the other more than a Billion who do believe there are MANY gods.)


Someday, they MAY even realize the ONLY place Any and/or ALL Gods Exist are IN the Minds of those who Believe in them.  NO god exists in the Real World.


As far as being good, consider this fact.
Open Atheists in the US are around 5% while the percent of we Atheists in US Prisons is LESS than one quarter of One 
percent!   This while &quot;believers&quot; make up the other 99.975+ percent with Christians comprising some 75 precent of those in America&#039;s prisions.


Thus PROVING religion is NOT needed to be a good person.


FYI The reason only about five percent are &quot;OPEN Atheists&quot; is becuse MOST Atheists are AFRAID to make it public
they ARE Atheists.  Some are even Afraid to let their close friends and family know the truth about how they feel about gods and religion. 

NOW PAY ATTENTION!

The FACTS are the Iraq War was FULLY
JUSTIFIED!  

The only ones who do not know this FACT are those who either did not pay sufficent attention to what was going on at the time OR they are too lazy to get the facts now! And they may also just be too STUPID to be able to comprehend the facts IF they did get them!

In March of 2003, I put together a list of SEVENTEEN Factual reasons which Fully Justify the Iraq War.  And I have sent this list to more than a few who disgree with me. 

NOT only has not one of them been able to DIS PROVE even ONE of my facts, some refuse to read them and none have even tried to PROVE I am wrong. They will NEVER be able to prove me wrong as Facts are Facts and real Facts can not be proven wrong. 


Neil C. Reinhardt

religionsucks@webtv.net]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, I am a 77 year old Agnostic Atheist Activest who has been an Atheist for 68 of my 77 years adn a Atheist Activiest for over half of a centry. As I&#8217;m not only many times more experienced than are most my age, and smarter than 97.5% of the world, I many times more knowledge than most.</p>
<p>Second,  While many, many Millions of Former Christians are now Atheists. most Christians are so indoctrinated into their religions as babies, children, teenagers the odds are they will remian programmed until they die.</p>
<p>After all as the Catholic Church says and it seems all religions believe, &#8220;Give me a Child until the Age of Seven and they are Mine FOREVER!&#8221; </p>
<p>What happens to those religious people who &#8220;See the Light&#8221; and lets &#8220;the TRUTH set them FREE&#8221; is some happens or some one says, or they read something which causes them to OPEN their mind and to begin questioning their religious beliefs.</p>
<p>They MAY realize the ONLY reason they believe there is only One god and why they are a Jew, a Moslem or a Christian<br />
is SIMLY DUE TO WHO RAISED THEM.</p>
<p>And they MAY realize the ONLY reason they believe there is only One god and not MANY. MANY gods is because they were<br />
not raised by Hindus!  (or any of the other more than a Billion who do believe there are MANY gods.)</p>
<p>Someday, they MAY even realize the ONLY place Any and/or ALL Gods Exist are IN the Minds of those who Believe in them.  NO god exists in the Real World.</p>
<p>As far as being good, consider this fact.<br />
Open Atheists in the US are around 5% while the percent of we Atheists in US Prisons is LESS than one quarter of One<br />
percent!   This while &#8220;believers&#8221; make up the other 99.975+ percent with Christians comprising some 75 precent of those in America&#8217;s prisions.</p>
<p>Thus PROVING religion is NOT needed to be a good person.</p>
<p>FYI The reason only about five percent are &#8220;OPEN Atheists&#8221; is becuse MOST Atheists are AFRAID to make it public<br />
they ARE Atheists.  Some are even Afraid to let their close friends and family know the truth about how they feel about gods and religion. </p>
<p>NOW PAY ATTENTION!</p>
<p>The FACTS are the Iraq War was FULLY<br />
JUSTIFIED!  </p>
<p>The only ones who do not know this FACT are those who either did not pay sufficent attention to what was going on at the time OR they are too lazy to get the facts now! And they may also just be too STUPID to be able to comprehend the facts IF they did get them!</p>
<p>In March of 2003, I put together a list of SEVENTEEN Factual reasons which Fully Justify the Iraq War.  And I have sent this list to more than a few who disgree with me. </p>
<p>NOT only has not one of them been able to DIS PROVE even ONE of my facts, some refuse to read them and none have even tried to PROVE I am wrong. They will NEVER be able to prove me wrong as Facts are Facts and real Facts can not be proven wrong. </p>
<p>Neil C. Reinhardt</p>
<p><a href="mailto:religionsucks@webtv.net">religionsucks@webtv.net</a></p>
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		<title>By: Skhan</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2010/12/31/why-we-leave/#comment-57323</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Skhan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2012 05:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I have done a &quot;mission&quot; trip to my own city, as well as a number of other ciiets in the U.S.    never to another country.  I have noticed one pattern here, and that is that the higher the socioeconomic level, the less time people generally have for MOST truly meaningful things   including everything from spending quality time with their children, to  making sure that they are going to heaven when they die. They are more focused on GETTING more THINGS instead of what really matters. Many people in the U.S. are so materialistic that they don&#039;t want to hear about God, or listen to Him. God might tell them they&#039;re doing something wrong   or even that He wants them to take time off work and go to the slums of Mexico and minister to the people there!!! Also, Christianity has become one of the few things in the U.S. that you can still hate without losing your PC status. Christians here are portrayed as fanatics/freaks because of a few people who SAY they are Christians and then go do bad things.In Mexico many people grow up without being hardened against God and Christianity by their society as most do here. Yes, their poverty level may make them more open to Christianity   they don&#039;t have all the material things in the way to distract them from Christ. They are also more willing to take the time to listen to someone who wants to talk to them about Christ. Is it any wonder that people who want to make a difference go to Mexico and other poor countries? They can make a difference for these people both physically and spiritually!References :]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have done a &#8220;mission&#8221; trip to my own city, as well as a number of other ciiets in the U.S.    never to another country.  I have noticed one pattern here, and that is that the higher the socioeconomic level, the less time people generally have for MOST truly meaningful things   including everything from spending quality time with their children, to  making sure that they are going to heaven when they die. They are more focused on GETTING more THINGS instead of what really matters. Many people in the U.S. are so materialistic that they don&#8217;t want to hear about God, or listen to Him. God might tell them they&#8217;re doing something wrong   or even that He wants them to take time off work and go to the slums of Mexico and minister to the people there!!! Also, Christianity has become one of the few things in the U.S. that you can still hate without losing your PC status. Christians here are portrayed as fanatics/freaks because of a few people who SAY they are Christians and then go do bad things.In Mexico many people grow up without being hardened against God and Christianity by their society as most do here. Yes, their poverty level may make them more open to Christianity   they don&#8217;t have all the material things in the way to distract them from Christ. They are also more willing to take the time to listen to someone who wants to talk to them about Christ. Is it any wonder that people who want to make a difference go to Mexico and other poor countries? They can make a difference for these people both physically and spiritually!References :</p>
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		<title>By: Neil C. Reinhardt</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2010/12/31/why-we-leave/#comment-51824</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil C. Reinhardt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Jun 2011 13:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In further reply to  &quot;UHU Tv Forum&quot;

(Who hides behind a screen name like the coward he-she-it most probably is,)
 
I&#039;ve received unsolicited comments which complimented me on my intelligence and my use of logic. As well as my ability to clearly communicate my views

And I defy you, or anyone else, to either logically or factually prove even one thing I have said in my many, many hundreds, if not thousands of my internet posts in over 13 years of my being on the internet is not a fact.

Neil C. Reinhardt]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In further reply to  &#8220;UHU Tv Forum&#8221;</p>
<p>(Who hides behind a screen name like the coward he-she-it most probably is,)</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve received unsolicited comments which complimented me on my intelligence and my use of logic. As well as my ability to clearly communicate my views</p>
<p>And I defy you, or anyone else, to either logically or factually prove even one thing I have said in my many, many hundreds, if not thousands of my internet posts in over 13 years of my being on the internet is not a fact.</p>
<p>Neil C. Reinhardt</p>
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		<title>By: Neil C. Reinhardt</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2010/12/31/why-we-leave/#comment-51464</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil C. Reinhardt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 23:57:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[WELL &quot;UHU Tv Forum&quot;  JUST WHAT ARE YOU ATTEMPTING TO SAY?

DO YOU THINK WE ARE MIND READERS?  

ANYONE WHO THINKS IT&#039;S &quot;OUTRAGEOUS&quot; THAT MANY OF WE MORE LOGICAL, RATIONAL, INFORMED AND INTELLIGENT ATHEISTS VOTED FOR MCCAIN AMD PALIN OVER THE DISHONEST, LYING, SOCIALIST,
RACIST &amp; CLUELESS, PISS POOR JUDGEMENT SKILLS AND NO INTEGRITY ODUMA, E MAIL ME AND I SHALL EXPLAIN WHY.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WELL &#8220;UHU Tv Forum&#8221;  JUST WHAT ARE YOU ATTEMPTING TO SAY?</p>
<p>DO YOU THINK WE ARE MIND READERS?  </p>
<p>ANYONE WHO THINKS IT&#8217;S &#8220;OUTRAGEOUS&#8221; THAT MANY OF WE MORE LOGICAL, RATIONAL, INFORMED AND INTELLIGENT ATHEISTS VOTED FOR MCCAIN AMD PALIN OVER THE DISHONEST, LYING, SOCIALIST,<br />
RACIST &amp; CLUELESS, PISS POOR JUDGEMENT SKILLS AND NO INTEGRITY ODUMA, E MAIL ME AND I SHALL EXPLAIN WHY.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil C. Reinhardt</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2010/12/31/why-we-leave/#comment-51463</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Neil C. Reinhardt]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 23:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://de-conversion.com/?p=3793#comment-51463</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[WELL &quot;UHU Tv Forum&quot;  JUST WHAT ARE YOU ATTEMPTING TO SAY?]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WELL &#8220;UHU Tv Forum&#8221;  JUST WHAT ARE YOU ATTEMPTING TO SAY?</p>
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		<title>By: UHU Tv Forum</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2010/12/31/why-we-leave/#comment-51459</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UHU Tv Forum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[IF you, or anyone else, wants a full explanations of why:

1. There is nothing wrong with Abortions,

2. the Death Penalty is very Civilized 
4. d.  I normally like my posts to be more polished than this, but w
5. hat the hey.  Consider this a brief follow up to my earlier post 6 6. about how to [.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>IF you, or anyone else, wants a full explanations of why:</p>
<p>1. There is nothing wrong with Abortions,</p>
<p>2. the Death Penalty is very Civilized<br />
4. d.  I normally like my posts to be more polished than this, but w<br />
5. hat the hey.  Consider this a brief follow up to my earlier post 6 6. about how to [.</p>
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		<title>By: UHU Tv Forum</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2010/12/31/why-we-leave/#comment-51458</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[UHU Tv Forum]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 Apr 2011 20:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Okay, I’m going to go a bit off-script here, and throw out a rant.  A rant that, despite truly heroic efforts on the part of my inhibitory circuits, I simply cannot withhold.  I normally like my posts to be more polished than this, but what the hey.  Consider this a brief follow up to my earlier post about how to [.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I’m going to go a bit off-script here, and throw out a rant.  A rant that, despite truly heroic efforts on the part of my inhibitory circuits, I simply cannot withhold.  I normally like my posts to be more polished than this, but what the hey.  Consider this a brief follow up to my earlier post about how to [.</p>
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