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		<title>By: Trey</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2011/01/07/peace-or-the-sword/#comment-53462</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Mar 2012 02:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wow, I&#039;m sorry that I missed the whole beginning of the conversation.  I&#039;ve struggled with the same issues on social media for about 4 years.  My solution has been to choose my battles.  People that REALLY know me already understand my position on most topics.  My family and other fundamentalists don&#039;t really know or understand my current world view.  Therefore, I choose topics that are most likely to be of interest to everyone and present them from a viewpoint that appeals to all parties.  I&#039;ve posted about healthcare reform, but only as it pertains to helping the poor.  I consistently point out idiosyncrasies between the rich, middle class and poor.  These &quot;social welfare&quot; messages resonate with those on the left, make sense to christians, and resonate with many fundamentalists.  I also make a point of sharpshooting my mother&#039;s re-postings of anything from FOX News.  I can get away with it since I&#039;m her son, and they really piss me the f*** off.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;m sorry that I missed the whole beginning of the conversation.  I&#8217;ve struggled with the same issues on social media for about 4 years.  My solution has been to choose my battles.  People that REALLY know me already understand my position on most topics.  My family and other fundamentalists don&#8217;t really know or understand my current world view.  Therefore, I choose topics that are most likely to be of interest to everyone and present them from a viewpoint that appeals to all parties.  I&#8217;ve posted about healthcare reform, but only as it pertains to helping the poor.  I consistently point out idiosyncrasies between the rich, middle class and poor.  These &#8220;social welfare&#8221; messages resonate with those on the left, make sense to christians, and resonate with many fundamentalists.  I also make a point of sharpshooting my mother&#8217;s re-postings of anything from FOX News.  I can get away with it since I&#8217;m her son, and they really piss me the f*** off.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2011/01/07/peace-or-the-sword/#comment-53118</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 05:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Ubi - good to hear from you! I&#039;ve always found your comments to be thoughtful and well-spoken. And nice to know there&#039;s still an active site out there; I&#039;ll try to check it out.

Michelle- welcome, and thanks for the kind words. But, alas, ubi is correct; there hasn&#039;t been activity (new posts) here in a long time. Feel free to look around , though, of course! To your specific comment: ubi is, as usual, dead on: making one&#039;s peace with uncertainty means accepting that you do not- and never did- have access to perfect answers. It may be tragic, perhaps, buts it&#039;s life. And it ain&#039;t so bad, once you get used to it.  So, yeah: what do *you* think is important? (Show your work) -- and then live your life accordingly.  That&#039;s as good as it gets, and despite what fundys often say, it&#039;s pretty good. we don&#039;t *need* perfect answers.  So if you think love is the basis on which we should make such a decision as we are discussing, then do so. 

For me, yes, what I do, I want to do out of love, or at least not hate, or anger, but there are other values, too (honesty, keeping the peace, being a good model, etc), and it&#039;s not always clear to me how they balance out. But that&#039;s okay! That&#039;s why we talking.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ubi &#8211; good to hear from you! I&#8217;ve always found your comments to be thoughtful and well-spoken. And nice to know there&#8217;s still an active site out there; I&#8217;ll try to check it out.</p>
<p>Michelle- welcome, and thanks for the kind words. But, alas, ubi is correct; there hasn&#8217;t been activity (new posts) here in a long time. Feel free to look around , though, of course! To your specific comment: ubi is, as usual, dead on: making one&#8217;s peace with uncertainty means accepting that you do not- and never did- have access to perfect answers. It may be tragic, perhaps, buts it&#8217;s life. And it ain&#8217;t so bad, once you get used to it.  So, yeah: what do *you* think is important? (Show your work) &#8212; and then live your life accordingly.  That&#8217;s as good as it gets, and despite what fundys often say, it&#8217;s pretty good. we don&#8217;t *need* perfect answers.  So if you think love is the basis on which we should make such a decision as we are discussing, then do so. </p>
<p>For me, yes, what I do, I want to do out of love, or at least not hate, or anger, but there are other values, too (honesty, keeping the peace, being a good model, etc), and it&#8217;s not always clear to me how they balance out. But that&#8217;s okay! That&#8217;s why we talking.</p>
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		<title>By: ubi dubium</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2011/01/07/peace-or-the-sword/#comment-53116</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Feb 2012 22:45:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;blockquote&gt;...Who says love is the purpose? Me? If I’m not God, how can I subjectively choose what’s important? I’m trying to embrace uncertainty, but you’ve written about how hard that is!&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Yes, you are the one to say what&#039;s important for your life.  As de-converts, meaning is not something we are handed, it&#039;s not something we have to search for, it&#039;s something that we make for ourselves.  Only you can decide what the meaning of your life should be, and isn&#039;t that wonderfully freeing!

(This website been pretty inactive lately.  I recomment you visit exchristian.net for a really active community of deconverts, including quite a few formal biblical literalists.)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>&#8230;Who says love is the purpose? Me? If I’m not God, how can I subjectively choose what’s important? I’m trying to embrace uncertainty, but you’ve written about how hard that is!</p></blockquote>
<p>Yes, you are the one to say what&#8217;s important for your life.  As de-converts, meaning is not something we are handed, it&#8217;s not something we have to search for, it&#8217;s something that we make for ourselves.  Only you can decide what the meaning of your life should be, and isn&#8217;t that wonderfully freeing!</p>
<p>(This website been pretty inactive lately.  I recomment you visit exchristian.net for a really active community of deconverts, including quite a few formal biblical literalists.)</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2011/01/07/peace-or-the-sword/#comment-53111</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:56:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[(cont&#039;d). So, thank you for your virtual input!

Now, I&#039;m probably very much still talking like a Christian, but perhaps your last paragraph is part of the key. It&#039;s about motives and why we do what we do. At this point in my life, I feel love should be our motive. You can choose to put it all out there on FB out of love or hate. You can choose to refrain out of love or hate. And probably there&#039;s a mixture of both. You&#039;re just human. And some will love and some will hate you for choosing either option. They&#039;re just human too. We&#039;re all on a journey. We all influence each other. 

But maybe that&#039;s too agnostic of an answer. :) Who says love is the purpose? Me? If I&#039;m not God, how can I subjectively choose what&#039;s important? I&#039;m trying to embrace uncertainty, but you&#039;ve written about how hard that is!

As you could guess, I&#039;m a nut job right now. Just trying to find my way and be open to it all. 

Thanks again!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>(cont&#8217;d). So, thank you for your virtual input!</p>
<p>Now, I&#8217;m probably very much still talking like a Christian, but perhaps your last paragraph is part of the key. It&#8217;s about motives and why we do what we do. At this point in my life, I feel love should be our motive. You can choose to put it all out there on FB out of love or hate. You can choose to refrain out of love or hate. And probably there&#8217;s a mixture of both. You&#8217;re just human. And some will love and some will hate you for choosing either option. They&#8217;re just human too. We&#8217;re all on a journey. We all influence each other. </p>
<p>But maybe that&#8217;s too agnostic of an answer. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Who says love is the purpose? Me? If I&#8217;m not God, how can I subjectively choose what&#8217;s important? I&#8217;m trying to embrace uncertainty, but you&#8217;ve written about how hard that is!</p>
<p>As you could guess, I&#8217;m a nut job right now. Just trying to find my way and be open to it all. </p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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		<title>By: michelle</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2011/01/07/peace-or-the-sword/#comment-53110</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Feb 2012 11:42:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Richard,

First, I must say I&#039;m new to all the deconversion stuff. I&#039;m only in my first month or so. Your posts are of help to me, as I only have devout, unwavering Christians and entirely &quot;unbelieving&quot; but absolutely beautiful and accepting people who do not understand the ins and outs and Bible-literal Christians. I am always seeking out deconverts]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard,</p>
<p>First, I must say I&#8217;m new to all the deconversion stuff. I&#8217;m only in my first month or so. Your posts are of help to me, as I only have devout, unwavering Christians and entirely &#8220;unbelieving&#8221; but absolutely beautiful and accepting people who do not understand the ins and outs and Bible-literal Christians. I am always seeking out deconverts</p>
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		<title>By: ToonForever</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2011/01/07/peace-or-the-sword/#comment-52203</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 23:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[*But they don’t.  My family and extended family put up religious (and political – strongly conservative) posts all the time.  They make not the slightest pretense of holding back.*

And that&#039;s why I decided not to hold back.  I&#039;m asked to pray every day.  I&#039;m told what God wants me to know.  I&#039;m told tragic stories of an Iranian pastor sentenced to death for teaching Christianity and asked again to pray.  Miracles are related to me all the time.  I&#039;m told in many different ways clever stories that relate mundane events to the wondrous workings of a personal God.

So when I recently deconverted and started my blog to explore what that means, I thought &quot;screw it.&quot;  We&#039;ll just throw it out there and let the discussion begin.  Defriend me, if you like.  Post cute fables designed to enlighten me on all the basic truths you think I don&#039;t know but I actually know better than you know them yourself.  Go for it.  Let&#039;s rumble.  I&#039;ll still love ya, and hopefully you me...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*But they don’t.  My family and extended family put up religious (and political – strongly conservative) posts all the time.  They make not the slightest pretense of holding back.*</p>
<p>And that&#8217;s why I decided not to hold back.  I&#8217;m asked to pray every day.  I&#8217;m told what God wants me to know.  I&#8217;m told tragic stories of an Iranian pastor sentenced to death for teaching Christianity and asked again to pray.  Miracles are related to me all the time.  I&#8217;m told in many different ways clever stories that relate mundane events to the wondrous workings of a personal God.</p>
<p>So when I recently deconverted and started my blog to explore what that means, I thought &#8220;screw it.&#8221;  We&#8217;ll just throw it out there and let the discussion begin.  Defriend me, if you like.  Post cute fables designed to enlighten me on all the basic truths you think I don&#8217;t know but I actually know better than you know them yourself.  Go for it.  Let&#8217;s rumble.  I&#8217;ll still love ya, and hopefully you me&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jim Jones</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2011/01/07/peace-or-the-sword/#comment-51722</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jim Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 May 2011 15:10:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;cite&gt;&quot;So my question is simply this: they do not make any effort to downplay or even tone down their views for my sake. Should I?&quot;&lt;/cite&gt;

They post and speak so because they have no faith. The completely faith-filled man is indistinguishable from the atheist (example: Fred Rogers). They replace faith with pointless noise and pointless activity in the hope of filling the void.

Quote: &quot;I don&#039;t pray, go to church or do any similar things because I have complete faith in god. I assume that things are proceeding as god wishes and she has no need of input from me. I don&#039;t seek god anywhere because clearly she doesn&#039;t want to be observed or found and I respect her wishes&quot;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><cite>&#8220;So my question is simply this: they do not make any effort to downplay or even tone down their views for my sake. Should I?&#8221;</cite></p>
<p>They post and speak so because they have no faith. The completely faith-filled man is indistinguishable from the atheist (example: Fred Rogers). They replace faith with pointless noise and pointless activity in the hope of filling the void.</p>
<p>Quote: &#8220;I don&#8217;t pray, go to church or do any similar things because I have complete faith in god. I assume that things are proceeding as god wishes and she has no need of input from me. I don&#8217;t seek god anywhere because clearly she doesn&#8217;t want to be observed or found and I respect her wishes&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2011/01/07/peace-or-the-sword/#comment-51691</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 15:53:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: keith</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2011/01/07/peace-or-the-sword/#comment-51690</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[keith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 May 2011 15:52:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[please post some comments on a new site we are starting...we&#039;d love to hear from ya.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>please post some comments on a new site we are starting&#8230;we&#8217;d love to hear from ya.</p>
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		<title>By: exploring</title>
		<link>http://de-conversion.com/2011/01/07/peace-or-the-sword/#comment-51688</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 May 2011 19:27:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[honestly, i think that there may be time for all the scenarios in your post.  in the sense that maybe it is ok to let it all hang out as an insensitive jerk.  that isn&#039;t the best case, but maybe there is room for that.  i know that there have been times where i needed to use my voice because it had been stifled for so long.  maybe i was being immature at times or insecure or whatever, but i needed to express myself.  so there is room for that.  although, it seems you aren&#039;t really in that space.  so maybe start small with a profile update or two...or maybe a sassy status update.  :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>honestly, i think that there may be time for all the scenarios in your post.  in the sense that maybe it is ok to let it all hang out as an insensitive jerk.  that isn&#8217;t the best case, but maybe there is room for that.  i know that there have been times where i needed to use my voice because it had been stifled for so long.  maybe i was being immature at times or insecure or whatever, but i needed to express myself.  so there is room for that.  although, it seems you aren&#8217;t really in that space.  so maybe start small with a profile update or two&#8230;or maybe a sassy status update.  <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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