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		<title>8 Reasons why I no longer believe</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[<img class="alignleft" style="float:left;" src="http://a.wordpress.com/avatar/confusedchristian-128.jpg" alt="" hspace="5" width="80" />I have recently posted a blog about how I have personal reasons to believe in a God, which goes in well with how comforting superstitions can be when it comes to finding easy answers. I'm going to touch on a list of reasons why I don't believe in Jesus Christ as redeemer, the risen one, alpha and omega, and so on.
<h3>1. The Trinity doesn't make sense</h3>
You may find evidence for a Trinity in the Bible, but it’s not clear and wasn’t so until the Nicene Creed was established. The word “Trinity” isn’t in the Bible, neither is a single verse in the Bible that says that all are of the same yet all are different. The Idea is received from several verses however, so it’s not necessarily a blind assumption.  A comprehensive study of the Trinity will still lead to it not making any sense. The result was that I just had to 'believe' in it anyways.
<h3>2. <b>Clashing theologies, clashing denominations</b></h3>
There's always a denomination demonizing another and there's too many churches out there saying they have the select elite going to heaven while everyone else is doomed( even though they believe in Christ). My biggest issue was this is that I could not find a theology I was at peace with - The result was I just had to 'believe' I had the right theology anyways. What if you're wrong? You see Christians are still at risk for eternal damnation according to their opposing denominations. There is no sure fire way a Christian can know they're saved without just 'believing' which in the end makes no sense...<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=de-conversion.com&amp;blog=845100&amp;post=692&amp;subd=agnosticatheism&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" style="float:left;" src="http://a.wordpress.com/avatar/confusedchristian-128.jpg" alt="" hspace="5" width="80" />I have recently posted a blog about how I have personal reasons to believe in a God, which goes in well with how comforting superstitions can be when it comes to finding easy answers. I&#8217;m going to touch on a list of reasons why I don&#8217;t believe in Jesus Christ as redeemer, the risen one, alpha and omega, and so on.</p>
<h3>1. The Trinity doesn&#8217;t make sense</h3>
<p>You may find evidence for a Trinity in the Bible, but it’s not clear and wasn’t so until the Nicene Creed was established. The word “Trinity” isn’t in the Bible, neither is a single verse in the Bible that says that all are of the same yet all are different. The Idea is received from several verses however, so it’s not necessarily a blind assumption. A comprehensive study of the Trinity will still lead to it not making any sense. The result was that I just had to &#8216;believe&#8217; in it anyways.</p>
<h3>2. <strong>Clashing theologies, clashing denominations</strong></h3>
<p>There&#8217;s always a denomination demonizing another and there&#8217;s too many churches out there saying they have the select elite going to heaven while everyone else is doomed( even though they believe in Christ). My biggest issue was this is that I could not find a theology I was at peace with &#8211; The result was I just had to &#8216;believe&#8217; I had the right theology anyways. What if you&#8217;re wrong? You see Christians are still at risk for eternal damnation according to their opposing denominations. There is no sure fire way a Christian can know they&#8217;re saved without just &#8216;believing&#8217; which in the end makes no sense.</p>
<h3>3. <strong>Absurd Bible stories and contradictions </strong></h3>
<p>I have found so many contradictions in the Bible that I can&#8217;t see how anyone can say it&#8217;s literal. A talking snake, talking donkey, hundreds of miracles and so on, all seem to be mythological to me. Contradictions are only there when taken at face value, one can remove them if they use &#8216;theologies&#8217; and &#8216;interpretations&#8217; &#8211; The result was I just had to &#8216;believe&#8217; even though I thought they were absurd. That&#8217;s right, you love Jesus and want the eternal life? Then it&#8217;s time to believe in all the absurd stories so <em>you can have it your way.</em></p>
<h3>4. <strong>God is said to be unchanging yet he changes so much!</strong></h3>
<p>It is so easy to see God change from a violent tyrant to an easy loving God yet people say he&#8217;s not changing. It&#8217;s so easy to see the evolution of this God in the scriptures, and the OT and NT are the best examples. The books that talk about &#8220;The Character of God&#8221; are all contradicting and leave out the genocide, rape, and other horrible things the OT Tribal God commanded. So he wants us to stone people to death then he wants us to stop, I thought you said he wasn&#8217;t changing? This &#8220;God is not changing&#8221; idea never made any sense to me.</p>
<h3>5. <strong>The Hell Problem</strong></h3>
<p>There is a serious problem with Hell. The Case for God being Just, and the case for God being Loving, all fall apart with the Hell Problem. The fact that Hell was never mentioned in the OT, neither demons nor Satan creates a real problem unless of course you want to use incorrect translations like the KJV. There are actually a lot of reasons why Hell makes no sense (even <a href="http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/ifhellisreal.htm" target="_blank">scripturally</a>)</p>
<h3>6. <strong>Eastern Religions pre-date Judaism</strong></h3>
<p>If God created the universe then why are there religions predating people even knowing what this God is. The whole Genesis story is a sore contradiction to reality. The only apologetic I&#8217;ve heard was the tower of babel, but the ToB story is pseudo-history.</p>
<h3>7. <strong>Judaism&#8217;s rejection of Yeshua(Jesus)</strong></h3>
<p>Just go to askmoses.com if you really want a good answer. Basically Jesus the so called Christ does not meet the literal requirements for a Messiah, especially as the Jews understand the scripture. The Jews wrote the scriptures too so they should know. But instead of even considering this aspect, you just have to believe that the Saint Paul and Yeshua were right when they re-interpreted the OT scriptures for us to make their religious ideas seem true.</p>
<h3>8. <strong>The existence of God cannot be proven</strong></h3>
<p>The only people saying his existence can be proven are those who &#8216;believe&#8217; . So saying God exists because you believe is the most absurd answer. Even Christians who swear up and down their belief in God is from substantial evidence can&#8217;t prove the existence of God to anyone but themselves and fellow congregates. I have come to find that there is no proof for any god&#8217;s existence at all. To accept Christianity is a huge leap of faith. In the end, you just have to &#8216;believe&#8217; and that makes the Hell problem even worse.</p>
<p>Well that&#8217;s not every reason why I don&#8217;t believe, but just a few.</p>
<p><em><strong>- confusedchristian </strong></em></p>
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		<title>Rationalizing Faith</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jan 2008 17:18:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[<img class="alignleft" style="float:left;" src="http://a.wordpress.com/avatar/confusedchristian-128.jpg" alt="" hspace="5" width="80" />Never in my life would I have ever imagined that I would go through so much change.   I have caused pain in close friends, and felt much inner shame at myself as the result.  What can I say?  I have been a fundamentalist Christian at least 3 times in my life.  I have also been a nihilist, an atheist, an agnostic...

I can recall many times I have almost died, and escaped death by sheer luck.  So many times those have been ways of pushing me into a superstitious worldview that some deity was looking out for me.  Other times I would look at my character traits and compare them to my astrological sign and be convinced that astrology is indeed true.  The truth is that astrology is a fraud, and I can't prove at all that a magical deity saved me from near death.

I believe that I just am conditioned to look at things with a faith-based mindset.  I also believe that I have a passion for fantasy and imagination which compliments the conditioning quite well.  Sometimes, the greatest feeling of awe and excitement comes to me when I believe in the magic.  The magic that I create in my head, the magic in movies, the magic in the Bible, and the magic in everyday life.  By magic, I mean illusion, and nothing more.  The illusion of imagination is beautiful in a way.  It  is kind of mystical and mysterious, and yes, it reminds me of falling in love...<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=de-conversion.com&amp;blog=845100&amp;post=682&amp;subd=agnosticatheism&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" style="float:left;" src="http://a.wordpress.com/avatar/confusedchristian-128.jpg" alt="" hspace="5" width="80" />Never in my life would I have ever imagined that I would go through so much change. I have caused pain in close friends, and felt much inner shame at myself as the result. What can I say? I have been a fundamentalist Christian at least 3 times in my life. I have also been a nihilist, an atheist, an agnostic&#8230;</p>
<p>I can recall many times I have almost died, and escaped death by sheer luck. So many times those have been ways of pushing me into a superstitious worldview that some deity was looking out for me. Other times I would look at my character traits and compare them to my astrological sign and be convinced that astrology is indeed true. The truth is that astrology is a fraud, and I can&#8217;t prove at all that a magical deity saved me from near death.</p>
<p>I believe that I just am conditioned to look at things with a faith-based mindset. I also believe that I have a passion for fantasy and imagination which compliments the conditioning quite well. Sometimes, the greatest feeling of awe and excitement comes to me when I believe in the magic. The magic that I create in my head, the magic in movies, the magic in the Bible, and the magic in everyday life. By magic, I mean illusion, and nothing more. The illusion of imagination is beautiful in a way. It is kind of mystical and mysterious, and yes, it reminds me of falling in love.</p>
<p>I think this is one of the biggest reasons why some will always choose religion as a way to understand life. Because in sort of a way, the magic of the illusion can be so attractive and so emotionally beneficial people will fight for it. It reminds me of a drug, a very potent and powerful drug. The addiction of religion is self-reinforcing with every positive emotion it creates. Positive emotions would be the sensationalism, the sense of &#8220;awe&#8221; and the assured purpose. Some people can&#8217;t live without their religion, and will admit that even if it isn&#8217;t true, they choose to believe it because it gives their life so much meaning.</p>
<p><em><strong>- confusedchristian</strong></em></p>
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		<description><![CDATA[<img class="alignleft" style="float:left;" src="http://a.wordpress.com/avatar/confusedchristian-128.jpg" alt="" hspace="5" width="80" />It's really important to have a "we believe" statement for every church. Not only do many churches have a declaration of faith, they usually use the same book, the Holy Bible, to back their claims. What is interesting to me is that this Bible is interpreted in many different ways. So, how do you know which "we believe" statement is in the "truth" and which is a "lie?" How does one approach this?</p>
I think for some, they would simply compare a statement of faith against the Holy Bible. I mean, that would make perfect sense to me. But, which verses in the Bible do you ignore, and which ones do you accept? How do you interpret the Bible to make it so it goes along with a declaration of faith? 

It seems to me that most Christians are first in alignment with a school of theology prior to understanding the Bible, and so then they are forced to cherry-pick the Bible to justify their personal beliefs. Can you read the Bible first, then find your own theology in it? Or do you have to subscribe to a leadership that claims monopoly on theology and truth? What came first in your religious beliefs? How to read the Bible or the Bible itself?...<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=de-conversion.com&amp;blog=845100&amp;post=671&amp;subd=agnosticatheism&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img class="alignleft" style="float:left;" src="http://a.wordpress.com/avatar/confusedchristian-128.jpg" alt="" hspace="5" width="80" />It&#8217;s really important to have a &#8220;we believe&#8221; statement for every church. Not only do many churches have a declaration of faith, they usually use the same book, the Holy Bible, to back their claims. What is interesting to me is that this Bible is interpreted in many different ways. So, how do you know which &#8220;we believe&#8221; statement is in the &#8220;truth&#8221; and which is a &#8220;lie?&#8221; How does one approach this?</p>
<p>I think for some, they would simply compare a statement of faith against the Holy Bible. I mean, that would make perfect sense to me. But, which verses in the Bible do you ignore, and which ones do you accept? How do you interpret the Bible to make it so it goes along with a declaration of faith?</p>
<p>It seems to me that most Christians are first in alignment with a school of theology prior to understanding the Bible, and so then they are forced to cherry-pick the Bible to justify their personal beliefs. Can you read the Bible first, then find your own theology in it? Or do you have to subscribe to a leadership that claims monopoly on theology and truth? What came first in your religious beliefs? How to read the Bible or the Bible itself?</p>
<p>I have never been satisfied with answers to those questions, all have been quite token such as &#8220;The Holy Spirit lets you know&#8221; or &#8220;They just have to say Jesus is Lord&#8221; or &#8220;Jesus raised from the dead&#8221; or &#8220;They gotta say God is number one and his word is number one and ya gotta put them first or yer not saved&#8221; (yet no one can agree on what putting him first even looks like) hmm what else?</p>
<p>I think, that, in the end, people choose doctrines that they feel most comfortable with. Some are much more comfortable with lots and lots of rules. Some are more comfortable with the lax, seeker friendly rules, and some are like me just wanting the answers&#8230;.</p>
<p><strong><em>- confusedchristian</em></strong></p>
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