Posts tagged ‘apostasy’
I am thankful for Justin’s article yesterday. It allows us to confront, and even express what our beliefs ultimately boil down to. But I want to here extend this question to Christians. I want to know the ‘modern’ Christian’s view of Death, and the Afterlife. As a Christian, I held the traditional Baptist view of Heaven as eternal paradise for the saved, and Hell as eternal torment for the damned. But since coming online, I am surprised to learn how many differing beliefs there are even amongst Christians.
Justin said in his last article,
Many Christians find it comforting in knowing that death has been conquered, relieving humanity from guilt and fear.
If you are a Christian, I would like to know if Justin’s statement is true for you, especially if you are one who believes in eternal damnation for the unsaved.
Like Justin, I am not trying to entrap Christians into engaging in debate (which I really am tired of)…
This post is somewhat atypical in that it is not meant to present arguments “for” or “against” religion. Instead, it is more of an inquiry from a curious Christian. As many De-Conversion readers know, Christian theology is full of text regarding the afterlife, Kingdom of God, and so on. Many Christians find it comforting in knowing that death has been conquered, relieving humanity from guilt and fear. But what does the Atheist think?
No, I am not wondering about what the Atheist thinks about the Christian view of death. I am curious to know the thoughts and feelings Atheists have regarding it. This can be hard to do (for Christians and Atheists alike) in that we often talk about death philisophically. In other words, we often forget that we will die. Reflecting on that very notion and making it a reality can be troublesome…
Posted on September 2, 2007 @ 09:47:27 EDT
Author Leonard David
The hunt for evidence that a 980-foot long feature on Mt. Ararat in Turkey might be the remains of Noah’s Ark has taken on a new dimension, quite literally.
Satellite Imaging Corporation of Houston, Texas has created a 3D terrain model of the so-called “Mt. Ararat anomaly” – making use of stereo IKONOS satellite image data to create a flyover of the site in remote northeastern Turkey…
Earlier we discussed the mystery of over 2 million Jews spending 40 years making an 11 day trip and leaving behind no evidence.
On a recent post, I once again got on my soapbox on the atrocities attributed to YHWH in the Old Testament. In response to this, Kim said:
Though this is a discussion for another topic, the irony of all these tales of genocide, ethnic cleansing, gore and murder in the Bible is that most of them never happened. There is absolutely no archaeological evidence to support these event ever occured. These tales were written in the 7-9th century BC by priestly class trying to develop a national identity for a people who were struggling for existance amid the cultural crossroads of several very dominant empires.
I Googled this topic and discovered the article Archeology and Biblical Accuracy by Farrel Till on infidels.org. Here are a few quotes from this article:
… The fact is that some archaeological discoveries in confirming part of the Bible simultaneously cast doubt on the accuracy of other parts. The Moabite Stone, for example, corroborates the biblical claim that there was a king of Moab named Mesha, but the inscription on the stone gives a different account of the war between Moab and the Israelites recorded in 2 Kings 3. Mesha’s inscription on the stone claimed overwhelming victory…
I have recently been reading a couple books on addiction, grief and loss. I am doing this because of what I see as the lack of books, support groups, or programs which deal specifically with De-Conversion or Apostasy from Christianity. I have found several books which help one recognize when you are in a dysfunctional or manipulative religious cult of some kind or another, and they have been somewhat helpful. But how does one deal specifically with the loss that accompanies Christian apostasy?
And there is loss. I have been a Christian for my entire life, as far as I can tell. And while I truly am at peace without the threat of eternal damnation looming over humanity, I cannot go that that many years as a devout Christian and not feel a some kind of vacuum left over in my soul.
I don’t think that vacuum is the absence of God. Rather it is the loss of my weekly Bible study, the camaraderie, always knowing when your Christian brothers and sisters will be there…
In response to my previous post “Rejecting the Obvious Truth of the Gospel,” pj11 said:
Words such as “believe,” “submit,” and “bow” indicate to me that an action is required on your part to be saved. While you may not “feel” like you’ve willfully rejected Christ by doubting the truth of Scripture, it appears that your refusal to take the appropriate active response to the Gospel is a rejection of Him.
pj11, thanks for your response. You replied exactly as I would have a couple of years ago before I left Christianity. The reason I wrote the referenced article is because of the conception Christians have regarding their ‘truth’ of the Gospel. The issue for me is that the ‘Truth’ of the Bible is not at all apparent. I am not asking for a systematic proof that the Christian Gospel is true. I regard faith, wonder and mystery to be central to the creative being, and a natural part of who we are. There is room for faith, and I have never had a problem with that. I do not need proof! However, when much of the Christian Gospel, the Christian Scriptures, and the Christian Worldview is just *wrong*, and can be shown to be wrong, there is room for much doubt and ambiguity.
If God is who he says he is, and if he truly loves each and every one of us, I believe he should make himself sufficiently well known to us that we truly have no excuse if we were to reject him…